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For instructions on how to nominate an article, see Template:DYK nomination header § Instructions for nominators.
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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
July 28 1
July 29 1 1
August 1 1
August 3 1
August 4 1
August 5 1 1
August 7 1 1
August 8 1 1
August 9 1
August 10 1
August 11 3 2
August 12 1 1
August 13 1 1
August 14 5 4
August 15 4 4
August 16 3 2
August 17 5 3
August 18 6 5
August 19 6 3
August 20 4 2
August 21 1 1
August 22 2 2
August 23 5 1
August 24 6 1
August 25 10 5
August 26 5 2
August 27 9 7
August 28 13 8
August 29 15 7
August 30 19 7
August 31 9 7
September 1 6 6
September 2 8 5
September 3 6 3
September 4 6 5
September 5 5 3
September 6 6 2
September 7 9 2
September 8 6 2
September 9 8 3
September 10 7 5
September 11 6 3
September 12 10 4
September 13 3
September 14
September 15 7
September 16 3
September 17 3
September 18 2
September 19 4
September 20 6
September 21 4
September 22 6
September 23
Total 263 122
Last updated 05:16, 23 September 2024 UTC
Current time is 06:21, 23 September 2024 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators

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If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.

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Frequently asked questions

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How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.


Instructions for reviewers

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Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
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    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
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If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Advanced procedures

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How to promote an accepted hook

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At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
  2. Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
    • Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting.
  3. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
  4. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
  8. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :)

  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
    • Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
  2. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
    • Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
    • Check that there's a bold link to the article.
  3. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
  4. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
  5. Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
    • At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
  6. Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

  • To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook

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  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

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  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

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  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

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Older nominations

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Articles created/expanded on July 28

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Center squeeze

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Distribution of winning candidates under RCV, showing a bias towards extremes
Distribution of winning candidates under RCV, showing a bias towards extremes
Created by Closed Limelike Curves (talk) and Jasavina (talk).


Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 01:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I've done some formatting to the hooks which may or may not rectify your concerns.--Launchballer 12:43, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, the new hooks should work. Given how the hooks based on examples are not only specific but may require specialist knowledge, I've struck them. The nom is ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Closed Limelike Curves: There are huge amounts of unsourced content in this! Please fix them. When you've done that, I will give this a proper review.--Launchballer 11:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Fixed. – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 00:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still see unsourced content.--Launchballer 07:42, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Could you clarify where/how? I can't see any, apart from the fictional example. That one doesn't have citations because I thought examples of basic computations didn't require sources; I've seen similar examples on other math pages.– Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 00:41, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My gut says the Alphabet example, First past-the-post and Ranked choice runoff sections shouldn't be there, although I'm not sure on what policy grounds. (Maybe WP:DUE?) The sentence beginning "In the 2009 election" needs a cite that isn't Wikipedia and there are two WP:MEDIUM sources - what makes them reliable?--Launchballer 07:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the 2009 election is cited now. The Medium posts are written by a published expert in the field, and their claims are backed up by other sources I've added (but the blog posts have a more in-depth discussion).– Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 03:16, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 1

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Kayangan Lake

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Created by DarkNight0917 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I will do a full review of this later, but for now my main concern is the hook. The claim of it being the cleanest lake in Asia is an exceptional claim, so per WP:DYKHOOK and WP:EXCEPTIONAL would require exceptional sourcing. Right now the article uses The Straits Times as the source for the fact: it is yellow on WP:RSP, which generally means it is to be used with caution on Wikipedia, and its suitability is a case-by-case thing. In this case, it may not be completely safe for it to be what supports the source. Either more independent or stronger sourcing should be found, or a different hook be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:43, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, propose this one: ALT1:... that a tribe performed rituals in a lake to let outsiders use it? Source:TST this hook uses the Straits times, let me know if it's okay or not. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 12:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1 should be okay as the article isn't about the Singaporean government and there's no reason to doubt that the ST is unreliable in this case. The main issue right now is that part of the article appears to be a close paraphrase of the Straits Times article, so that needs urgent attention. The sourcing in the article isn't the best since it seems to rely on tourist guide websites, but for the purpose of the article it probably isn't disqualifying since they aren't used to support contentious information. As for the rest of the DYK checks, the article is new enough and long enough and a QPQ has been provided. In addition for the need to resolve the close paraphrasing, the article could also use a copyedit. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:05, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One final suggestion: as the claim of it being the cleanest lake in Asia is an exceptional claim, and I do not believe that the sources provided are exceptional sources, my suggestion would be to make the statement in the article less definitive. Something like "The Straits Times stated that the lake is reputed..." or wording to that effect. Maybe Launchballer can help out here with the wording and copyediting? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A possible alternate wording of ALT1, if for whatever reason it does not pass scrutiny, could be something like:
ALT3 ... that prior to allowing outsiders to visit Kayangan Lake, the Tagbanwa tribe performed a ritual to seek permission from nature spirits?
It's much longer than ALT2 and I think ALT2 is still suitable, this is just a backup option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will take a look at this when I'm done with Talk:Megan Barton-Hanson/GA1, and I'll get to that when I'm feeling a little more clear-headed. (There's clearly something big there I'm not seeing.)--Launchballer 13:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am really not liking some of the sources used in this article - Journey Era, Philippinetravels.ph, and Richandsunnytravels.ph are all WP:SPS blogs and Guidetothephilippines.ph is a travel agency. What makes them reliable?--Launchballer 14:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They're travel websites that give information about the subject. They aren't ideal, but it's often the case that coverage about less well-known Philippine destinations are lacking. As long as they aren't being used to support contentious information, as in what they're saying is uncontroversial and unlikely to be made up, I don't necessarily see them as a problem for DYK purposes. This isn't aiming for FA or even GA. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Having said that, the claim of it being the cleanest lake in Asia is an exceptional claim, and I'm not comfortable with how it is currently presented as a fact in the article. As stated above, my suggestion would be for it to be attributed to the Straits Times, while also making the presentation less definite. If this isn't addressed, I can't see this article running on DYK since that statement will likely be challenged at WT:DYK and/or WP:ERRORS. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheNuggeteer: Please address the concerns raised above; the nomination may be marked for closure if they are not resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Done, added note. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 13:55, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, but the attribution to The Straits Times has to be in-text and not a footnote. So the article should say something like "A The Straits Times article called the lake the cleanest in Asia." or something like that, and even, I'm not even sure if the claim would meet scrutiny to other editors. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheNuggeteer and Narutolovehinata5: "Asia's cleanest lake" is a scientific claim, and not one The Straits Times is qualified to make. What even defines "cleanest"? "widely regarded" by scientists, or average people, or who? Hook currently fails verification. Also, are the travel blogs reliable sources? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see this came up earlier. Launchballer seems to be right under WP:DYKG, which says that all sources cited need to meet a minimum standard of reliability (i.e. can't be self-published). theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:40, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see an ALT2 on this page and ALT1 needs an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 10:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • With how long this nomination has been ongoing, with major sourcing issues still present, there doesn't seem to be a path forward for the article at this time. ALT3 is probably the best option and unlike the original "cleanest lake" claims is properly sourced and not exceptional, but with the issues with sourcing, the article can't run on DYK in this state. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ but regardless of the cleanliness, it should still not be drunk without treatment and this is a brackish lake anyway which has salt in it

Articles created/expanded on August 3

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Asik-Asik Falls

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Asik-Asik Falls
Asik-Asik Falls
Created by DarkNight0917 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 09:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

These are kind of what the falls are really known for, so I think that these would be more interesting. - DarkNight0917 (talk / contr) 23:57, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

new enough, long enough, image is fine, qpq done. some concerns:

  • on the verge of rejecting alt0; to discover something, by definition, has to be an accident.
  • rejecting alt1; not mentioned in article. also, readers won't know what it means for a waterfall to go viral. it was an image of the falls that went viral, and that's uninteresting, a lot of things go viral.
  • rejecting alt2; uninteresting (and probably undue to mention in the article).
  • alt3/4's source says that Where the water comes from is still a mystery. it's not visible, yes, but it's also not known, unless there's something i'm missing.
  • refs 2, 3, and 7 are travel guides/blogs; are these reliable?
  • It receives over 500 tourists on weekdays and 1,000 on weekends is cited to a 2014 source and probably outdated

ltbdl☃ (talk) 07:30, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know what's wrong with alt3 and 4, the blogs are reliable since these are usually for expansion and regularly do no harm in DYK. Fixed the outdated thing by adding a note. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 13:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheNuggeteer: regularly do no harm? do you have examples? ltbdl☃ (talk) 17:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheNuggeteer: If the article cites blogs with no kind of peer review or editorial process, ltbdl is right that those should be removed before appearing at DYK. Could that be addressed? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the travel/blogs from the article and added material that was not in the article. Catfurball (talk) 21:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DarkNight0917:, since this is your article you should over my edits if you want this article on the main portal page. Catfurball (talk) 21:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me. The blogs have been removed and replaced with better sources. I've also proposed other ALT hooks that are more specific about the origins of the water:

Articles created/expanded on August 4

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Laurence Patrick Lee

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  • ... that New Zealand mathematician Laurence Patrick Lee worked his way to England to find a cure for his stammer and was speaking normally after just 18 minutes of instruction?
  • Source: "N.Z. Man Cured Of Stammering By British 'Expert' ", Greymouth Evening Star, 11 Dec 1950, [N.Z.P.A. SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT], "When Mr L. P. Lee [...] read in a Jersey newspaper that Mr William C. Kerr, M.A., of St Helier, had discovered a cure for stammering he decided to get a year's leave of absence from the Lands and Survey Department and to work his way to England. ¶ Lee had been stammering all his life and he felt that Mr Kerr could help him. He worked as engineer’s steward in the Trojan Star, arrived in England on November 13 and 18 minutes after seeing Mr Kerr on November 18 he was speaking normally. ¶ Recorded Proof ¶ Mr Kerr took a recording of Lee stammering the date and time before instructing him. He took a second recording 18 minutes later with Lee now stating the date and time without stammering.
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Alternate hooks could talk about his map projections (and could include map pictures, if a picture is needed), but this story seemed like a better human interest hook.
Created by Jacobolus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

–jacobolus (t) 00:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Length, history and reference verified. Earwig looks OK even though I couldn't use Google because it said we had sent too many queries to it.
However ... the end of one graf was uncited, and so I have tagged it. It should be easy to fix. Daniel Case (talk) 19:26, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added some examples of other high impact books/papers which have cited and discussed Lee's paper (the claim in the article was that it was influential). –jacobolus (t) 19:51, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Daniel Case, have the issues been addressed? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:45, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the delay. All but one of those sources are paywalled from where I am, but since the one that isn't describes the cited paper as "well-known", we'll take your word for it. Daniel Case (talk) 17:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I could go either way on this, but anyone else a little uncomfortable with sourcing a medical story claim to a 1950 newspaper? It's not a MEDRS claim, but it's not an uncontroversial one, either. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article says that he continued to work with the specialist for weeks, which seems to contradict the hook? Looking around online for sources about quickly curing a stammer, I found "There is no instant cure for stuttering., contrary to popular belief, there isn't a permanent fix to overcoming a stammer, and therapies and courses are not a cure or a 'quick fix' for stammering. Open to alternative hooks or being proven wrong, Rjjiii (talk) 15:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC) Forgot to ping jacobolus, Rjjiii (talk) 16:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you can think of a better phrasing for a hook (or we could come up with an alternate hook not having to do with the stammer). The claim from the news article is that Kerr recorded Lee saying the date and time when he first arrived, stammering, and then 18 minutes later took another recording of him saying the date and time, not stammering – i.e. just saying one simple sentence, not an ability to fluently speak without stammering. (The news article author presumably listened to this recording.) Then he stayed for another few weeks with Kerr to work on it, and by the time he left he considered himself cured with only a slight occasional stammer remaining. I don't think the claimed "cure" here was ever perfect, but Kerr really did have a stammering clinic in Jersey for decades, apparently with significant success, with people coming from all over the world to work with him. After 1955 Kerr's clinic was hosted in this funny boat-shaped building in Jersey called "Barge Aground", which can nowadays be rented by tourists. There are a couple of pictures of Kerr here, and some other patients. –jacobolus (t) 18:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here's the full news article:
N.Z. Man Cured Of Stammering By British “Expert”
[N.Z.P.A. SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT]
LONDON, December 10 (Rec. 9 a.m.).—When Mr L. P. Lee, of 195 The Terrace, Wellington, read in a Jersey newspaper that Mr William C. Kerr, M.A., of St Helier, had discovered a cure for stammering he decided to get a year’s leave of absence from the Lands and Survey Department and to work his way to England.
Lee had been stammering all his life and he felt that Mr Kerr could help him. He worked as engineer’s steward in the Trojan Star, arrived in England on November 13 and 18 minutes after seeing Mr Kerr on November 18 he was speaking normally.
Recorded Proof
Mr Kerr took a recording of Lee stammering the date and time before instructing him. He took a second recording 18 minutes later with Lee now stating the date and time without stammering.
Lee stayed with Mr Kerr for a fortnight and when he returned to London his brother Mr M. G. Lee, who is teaching at a college and who had been most sceptical was “astounded” at the change.
Mr L. P. Lee told the Press Association: “I am thoroughly happy about the cure. I know that whenever I want to I can speak normally and I could even make a public speech now.” Only a slight occasional stammer is noticeable -in his speech and he counted rapidly up to 20.
Discovery Made
Mr Kerr said: “When I was a student at Glasgow University 16 years ago I had. to write a thesis on philosophy. In doing so I came across a psychological discovery. From this I discovered the cause and then the cure of stammering.”
“Its taken me a long time and I’ve had to contend with a good deal of scepticism and' opposition. But I’ve had 90 per cent success with 50 cases. I’m not a doctor but I believe I have a mission and I am making this my life’s work. I charge a fee which I shall reduce as I get more patients,” stated Mr Kerr.
–jacobolus (t) 18:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rjjiii: Have your concerns been addressed? If not, what else does @Jacobolus: need to do?--Launchballer 19:12, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jacobolus and Launchballer: No, because "Kerr really did have a stammering clinic in Jersey for decades, apparently with significant success, with people coming from all over the world to work with him" is true, but when I dig through sources, many of them make his treatment sound ineffective:
  • "It was after his mother died when he was 15 that his dad found a "miracle cure" at an unusual school in Jersey. 'I was basically "cured" by being beaten up. I went to a school run by a man called Bill Kerr. He maintained stammering was a fear of words and if he could make your brain understand that stammering was scarier than speaking, he could cure you. We had to stand bolt upright, speaking slowly and if we stammered he hit us. Slapped round the face punched in the stomach, smacked in the back of the head. I ordered soup one night and I stammered and he dunked my head in the bowl. But after three days I was speaking for the first time in my life.'"[3]
  • "During our many exchanges, we discovered that (in the 1960's) we had both attended a two weeks course in Jersey (a small island located between the UK and France), run by the late Dr Bill Kerr (from Scotland). With his typical frankness, Marty often referred to Kerr as a charlatan."[4]
  • "I spent three intense weeks on the British Isle of Jersey at a 'school for stutterers' run by a scoundrel. Dr. William C. Kerr, Ph.D., as he insisted on calling himself, had steel-blue eyes and a ferocious temperament. He promised to cure his class of stutterers "in a fortnight," and indeed, he worked with me and seven other stutterers for twenty days, eight to twelve hours a day. As long as he held us in his intimidating gaze, we dared not stutter. Unfortunately, he was not for rent and did not travel. When I returned to the United States, I was still stuttering."[5]
  • Or the 'doctor of something or other who lived on the Isle of Jersey in the English Channel,' who sent Marty's father a written promise that he'd effect a cure 'in a fortnight.' So off to Jersey flew Marty, to confront a sergeant- major type whose idea was 'to toughen us up as if we were recruits in the British Army. . . . To stumble even the slightest bit was to provoke his fury. Not only would he yell at us (and, from six inches away, splatter us with spit), but he'd grab us by the shirt or the scruff of the collar and shake us out of our stammering softness,' Jezer writes. The doctor seemed to think that spontaneous speech was women's talk. Men . . . wouldn't squander their power with idle chatter. We were to be silent unless we had something important, manly, to say.'
    Lord, lord. And it all amounted, of course, to nothing. The Jersey doc could bully patients into brief stutter-free performances. Marty's parents wanted badly to believe he was cured. His father died in that belief. Marty's not cured, and lives with the fact that he never will be.    [6][7]
  • "the late William Kerr, a roving unlicensed speech therapist from the Isle of Jersey [...]
    On the first day [of the Kerr course] we were gathering at the motel and going through the ritual of introductions. One man put his hand out to me and said, 'My name is ... uh ... actually . .. my name is Jim." Afterwards one of the other men in the group who had a highly noticeable stutter shook his head and said, in an aside to me, "What a fool! I'd rather stammer my head off than avoid like that. It looks ridiculous. People must think he's crazy' [...] The simplest way to conceal stuttering is to avoid speaking.    "[8][9]
It feels weird to attribute a near-miracle cure to a man that so many folks seemed to say just intimidated people into shutting up for a bit. Also, theleekycauldron why do you say it's not WP:MEDRS? Rjjiii (talk) 05:04, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because asserting that a treatment worked once doesn't require asserting that it works in general; it's entirely possible that this story is true, whether by luck of the draw or complete coincidence, but Kerr is in general a charlatan. It's a narrow interpretation of MEDRS, and I probably wouldn't include the claim myself, but I don't think a meta-analysis is necessary to support the details of one person's life experience. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 05:09, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your research. Kerr's record does sound a lot more mixed than the couple other sources I found in my quick internet skim. I don't think it's a "miracle" if an aggressive (perhaps to the point of abusive) method was sometimes a complete failure and even source of trauma but also sometimes found some success and even appreciation from the patients. Whether or not it could be considered a "cure" by some rigid criteria (marketing + newspaper hype typically tends to moderate exaggeration), at least some people clearly felt that their stuttering was significantly ameliorated and their life was thereby improved. But I can understand your skepticism about promoting a controversial and probably now illegal medical treatment from the Wikipedia front page.
I could try to come up with an alternative hook, but making a not-bland one about Lee's map projection work might require adding a bit more detail about that topic to the article / hunting for more sources: I know some things I personally appreciate about Lee's work, but I'm not sure if there's a good secondary source voicing those comments. –jacobolus (t) 05:32, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I clicked through your first link, Rjjiii, and while the part you quoted makes Kerr's treatment sound outright abusive, the following paragraph also makes it sound like it was ultimately helpful, perhaps life changing, for the patient: Now a patron of the British Stammering Association, he says he is indebted to Kerr for teaching him tricks which have helped him forge a career as a sports pundit, appearing on television and radio. "He taught us how to use words, and how to know when someone's using speech to intimidate you. So I have this whole bag of tricks now. It has served me so well. ¶ "But I do Newsnight with Jeremy Paxman and I still have to go to the toilet for a couple of minutes before to compose myself like Bill Kerr told me." –jacobolus (t) 16:29, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jacobolus: I don't think the sourcing is there to describe Kerr's treatment as something that can cure a stutter in a month in Wikipedia's voice. Rather than continue to discuss it, could I invite you to either ping another editor or maybe post a notice to Wikipedia talk:Did you know or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine? If I'm outvoted on the sourcing, I'll accept the consensus. Regarding an article on Kerr, I will likely pass on it, but appreciate the suggestion. If you decide to write him up, something I found limited information on but must have been a huge deal is that he apparently was an early speech therapist for George VI. Rjjiii (talk) 19:07, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, Rjjiii, would you consider making a Wikipedia article about Kerr himself? It seems like a worthy subject and you've already done significant research here. –jacobolus (t) 05:37, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here's another source, Petrunik 1974: The "Kerr method" refers to a method of speaking taught by W. C. Kerr in a two-week course, as a "cure" for stuttering. The method essentially involves a standardized temporal ordering (time-on/time-off sequence) of speech. Each word is syllabilized and there are split second pauses between each syllable; for example, I-am-a-u-ni-ver-si-ty stu-dent. The individual is told to stand in a ram-rod straight fashion with his head up high. Unfortunately, such a manner of speech, though technically fluent, does not meet the expectations for normal speech in North America. Its effects have been described as mechanical, stilted, and artificial. I can well imagine that some patients might consider adopting a method like this to be inadequate while others might think it beneficial (compared to an alternative of being unable or barely able to speak in many contexts due to a heavy stutter or associated anxiety) despite some obvious drawbacks. –jacobolus (t) 05:50, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on August 9

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Ajah Pritchard-Lolo

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  • Source: Vanuatu Daily Post says she's the first female weightlifter; however, as per Olympedia, the nation has never had a male weightlifter, thus she is the first regardless of gender
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 236 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Full review needed now that QPQ has been provided.--Launchballer 20:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BeanieFan11: Long enough, new enough, QPQ done. Hook's short enough, cited, and interesting (though if I had my druthers we'd be calling the Vanuatu Daily Post out on its blatant sexism!). Forgive my ignorance, but both the article and source claim Ajay won three silver and a bronze and both say "Snatch, Clean & Jerk and total", even though these are three events. Do you mean "snatch, clean, jerk, and total" or something else? I see no further reason why this might deserve a maintenance template.--Launchballer 18:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On a further look, I'm confused by this as well. There are three different events in weightlifting, the 'snatch', total, and the 'clean and jerk'; clean and jerk are not separate as far as I'm aware. We have an article on Weightlifting at the 2023 Pacific Games: it lists Pritchard-Lolo as having won medals in the three events – two silver (snatch, total) and a bronze (clean & jerk). Leaning towards changing it to that per this source from the competition. Thoughts? BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:22, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea.--Launchballer 11:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on August 10

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Mokulubete Makatisi

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  • Source: Public Eye News ("Makatisi, 26, finished the race on position eight in the women’s commonwealth marathon last Saturday ... Makatisi’s mentor ... says his athlete has tried very hard despite the setback of having to run in new shoes which she began to use for the first time on the day of the race.")
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 237 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:27, 17 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - Should clarify something like how late these shoes were and/or how much they're needed for running, but no other issues.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nom one week after creation and size 2330 B. Ref 4 ad 6 is broken, so I used [10] and [11]. @BeanieFan11: fix these issues and I'll approve. You may wanna update the article, but consider this optional. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:23, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11 and Miraclepine: Ping me if you need any hooks assessed.--Launchballer 10:11, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on August 11

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Jacques Lewis

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  • Source: "Believed to be the last surviving Frenchman to wade ashore with Americans, he was attached to an Army unit that stormed Utah Beach and helped drive Germans out of France."
NY Times
Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 139 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 16:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC). Review[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The NYT source does not support the hook as written because it only covers the US landings but there were British and Canadian beaches on D-Day too. A claim of first/last is a flag Redflag and so needs excellent verification.
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - "Believed" is a weasel word and/or expression of doubt. If this is a definite fact, as it should be, then we should state it as such without such tentative language.

QPQ: No - Not provided yet. Note current discussions about limiting nominations on credit like this.
Overall: I'm not sure of the formal status of translations but this review template asks Is the article free of material copied from other sources? and it isn't. The article seemed to need some copy-editing and so further work of that kind may soften the issue. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your review. Will fix up shortly. Thriley (talk) 21:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that Jacques Lewis, a 105 year old French veteran of D-Day, insisted that he participate in a ceremony commemorating the invasion's 80th anniversary? Thriley (talk) 20:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrew Davidson: Have your concerns been addressed, and does this hook work? If not, what else needs to be done to get this approved? Z1720 (talk) 14:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The QPQ has been done and the ALT1 hook seems ok. I raised the issue of translation at WT:DYK but, iirc, most responders didn't seem to be bothered about this.
Looking at the article, I notice that the lead is too short, being just one sentence, and there's just a generic section title of "Biography" which isn't helpful to the reader. So, some copy-editing still seems needed. I'll keep a tab open and make a pass through it myself to see if that helps or turns up any issues. More anon...
Andrew🐉(talk) 14:53, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regarding "believed", the is what the New York Times states. It is extremely unlikely there are any other living French vets of the American landings on D-Day. I'll change it to "was" if there are no objections. Thriley (talk) 20:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on August 14

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Hammond's Hard Lines

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  • ... that depending on the edition, a fairy or a gremlin grants wishes to the titular character of Hammond's Hard Lines?
  • Source: "Books of the Day: 'Hammond's Hard Lines'". The Liverpool Mercury. 1901-12-12. p. 10. Retrieved 2024-08-20 – via Newspapers.com. / "Review of Books for Backward Readers". The Slow Learning Child. 3 (3): 173–183. 1957. doi:10.1080/0156655570030308. ISSN 1034-912X. Retrieved 2024-08-20 – via Taylor & Francis Online.
Created by Slgrandson (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:21, 20 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1 as currently written is inaccurate: there are countless examples from anime and manga alone, let alone other genres of literature. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1b: ... that Hammond's Hard Lines was one of the few school stories by a British author to feature fantasy in its plot? Source: Wotton, Joy; Auchmuty, Rosemary, eds. (2000). "Skelton Kuppord (Pseudonym for Sir John Adams)". The Encyclopaedia of School Stories. Ashgate. p. 211. ISBN 0-7546-0083-1. Retrieved 2024-09-08 – via Google Books Snippets. (Emphasis on the nationality this time; apologies if I didn't sign last time.) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 03:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I really have doubts about this angle to be honest. It's a rather exceptional claim and thus needs exceptional sourcing, and I can't imagine that the hook is actually all that accurate, especially when Harry Potter exists. The term "few" in this case is also vague. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It also has to be noted that the "by a British author" is not supported by the article or quote either, so unless that's resolved then ALT1b fails verification. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All that's left among my options is a review:
ALT2: ... that The Bookseller viewed Hammond's Hard Lines as "a very diverting amalgam of a fairy tale and an ordinary story of schoolboy life"? Source: "Messrs. Blackie & Son's Books for the Young: Hammond's Hard Lines. By Skelton Kuppord". The Christmas Bookseller. December 1894. p. 11. Retrieved 2024-09-19 – via Google Books. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 04:55, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That could work, but this would still need a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:50, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 16

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Italian Campaign of 1796-1797

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Created by Sir MemeGod (talk) (translator) and 151.82.192.215 (talk) (who made the Italian page). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 16:27, 19 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]


  • @Sir MemeGod: a few things need straightening out here:
  • There are a lot of Harvard errors in the citations and referencing. If you haven't already, I suggest installing this script to catch and fix them.
  • The two sources cited here are not really up to the bar of WP:RS. We need published works, ideally in print, by people acknowledged as experts in their field. Fortunately, Napoleon is not short of people who have written good academic work about him.
  • The hooks need to be explicitly stated within the article itself: neither of these two seem to be.

I would suggest giving the article a fix for the citations, and then looking for two or three good facts from within it for which you have good sources already cited. I notice you've written that it's a translation, so make sure that these are from works that you can access to verify the citation. UndercoverClassicist T·C 13:21, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


1. "...that the Italian Campaign of 1796–1797 ended with the Treaty of Campo Formio?"
1b. Source: https://www.britannica.com/event/Treaty-of-Campo-Formio#:~:text=Treaty%20of%20Campo%20Formio%2C%20(October,Napoleon%20Bonaparte's%20first%20Italian%20campaign.
2. "...that the Italian Campaign of 1796–1797 was led by Napoleon?" (Kind of generic, I know)
2b. Source: https://www.worldhistory.org/Napoleon's_Italian_Campaign/
2c. Source:https://www.pbs.org/empires/napoleon/n_war/campaign/page_1.html#:~:text=First%20Italian%20Campaign%2C%201796%2D97,Piedmontese%2C%20then%20conquer%20each%20separately. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 15:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]



Sources (which I've checked WP:RS/PS for reliability):
1. https://www.pbs.org/empires/napoleon/n_war/campaign/page_1.html (passes WP:RS/PS)
2. https://www.britannica.com/event/French-revolutionary-wars/Campaign-in-Italy (there is no consensus, but the information is non-controversial, so it should be fine)
Also, printed books shouldn't be a requirement, if it's stated from a RS then it should be fine. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 16:47, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • They're not a requirement, but most of the websites you had been citing weren't good RSs for historical information -- I think Britannica is fine; PBS is acceptable but not great for history: we can trust their integrity, but they don't claim any real academic expertise or credibility. I think the most recent ALT (which I've labelled ALT0) is good; I've taken the liberty of making some minor edits for concision and markup. Hook is in the article, but the reference doesn't quite check: PBS give the two week figure as the combined total for Montenotte and Mondovi. UndercoverClassicist T·C 17:50, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely stuff. A few copyright issues:

Not strictly required, but as we're going to be directing many readers from the main page to this article, it would be good to have alt text on the images for the benefit of blind people using screen readers. UndercoverClassicist T·C 18:26, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request new reviewer, reviewer has not responded in 4 days. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 14:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to respect that request, though I note for the future reviewer that the source information on File:Bonaparte di Edouard Detaille.jpg is still insufficient. Good luck with the nomination. UndercoverClassicist T·C 15:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just noting that this needs a full review, as one does not appear to have been done.--Launchballer 09:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 17

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1961 Pittsburg State Gorillas football team

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Head coach Carnie Smith with All-Americans Gary Snadon and Harlan Hess and the UPI national championship trophy
Head coach Carnie Smith with All-Americans Gary Snadon and Harlan Hess and the UPI national championship trophy
  • ... that the undefeated 1961 Pittsburg State Gorillas (pictured with UPI trophy) shut out seven opponents, featured four All-Americans and won three national championships?
  • Source: Seven shutouts: here

Four All-Amerians: Snadon here, Archer, Beal, Hess here

Three national championships: UPI national small college champion (here), NAIA national champion (here), and AP small college national champion (here).
5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 375 past nominations.

Cbl62 (talk) 11:30, 18 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Abortion in Guinea

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  • Source: [12] [my translation] For this legal journalist, the Guinean penal code cannot condemn a woman who has had an abortion.
Moved to mainspace by Vigilantcosmicpenguin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 04:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Vigilantcosmicpenguin: Please address the above.--Launchballer 09:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Full review needed.--Launchballer 21:26, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This won't be a full review but the point of lawyers is to disagree. Bremps... 22:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 19

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Serekunda, Kanifing

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Downtown Serekunda
Downtown Serekunda
  • Source: [14] Banjul, Gambia's capital city, is positioned on St. Mary's Island at the mouth of the River Gambia and long ago reached its residential carrying capacity. Adjacent Serekunda has accommodated the overflow.
5x expanded by Vigilantcosmicpenguin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 00:40, 21 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I don't see the article as new, needs an explanation. The hook is a book source so AGF. I see multiple un-broad sentences, like about the dictator's rule, which isn't related to the city (only a tiny bit). 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 23:42, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good explanation, changing. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 00:46, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source: Same as before

— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 22:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: reviewer needed to review second article, Kanifing, and the new ALT1 hook with both articles included. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Kanifing review
    Article was expanded from 1761 characters/288 words to 8988 characters/1422 words. This is on the border of x5 expansion, and some copyediting may bring this down. There are some paraphrasing concerns. The lead has "Kanifing is a municipality in the Gambia, to the west of Banjul...It includes Serrekunda, the largest urban area in the Gambia", which is very close to "Kanifing, a local government area, lies to the west of Banjul, the capital. It includes Serrekunda, the largest urban area in the country". "It has the largest population of any of the districts in the Gambia" in the lead is very similar to "Kanifing municipality has the largest population of any administrative district in the country" of the same source. "Kanifing is the most densely populated part of the Gambia" in the body is very similar to the same source's "making it the most densely populated area in The Gambia". "In 1991, it became the Kanifing Municipal Council" seems taken from "In 1991, KUDC was given the status of a municipal council, becoming Kanifing Municipal Council (KMC)", "Kanifing and Banjul comprise the Greater Banjul Area" is "Kanifing and the City of Banjul together form the Greater Banjul Area", both also from this source. There may be other areas, I have not checked every place this was cited. Some of these might be fine on their own as basic information, but seeing so many examples demonstrates the paraphrasing is too close. (While I cannot access many of the sources used here, I could access this waste management one, which does not seem closely paraphrased in the same way.) A related aside, the "Senegalese people comprise 92% of these" in the article is wrongly contextualised, the source notes 92% is for all of The Gambia, not just Kanifing. Talib Ahmed Bensouda's political party does not seem to be in the mentioned source.
    I have not re-checked the Serekunda article other than to check the hook. While I am not sure what "overtaking its status" in the body there means, the main point in the hook is supported. I find the hook interesting. A second QPQ was completed. CMD (talk) 10:58, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Chipmunkdavis: I've made tweaks to the prose to address the paraphrasing issues. I've kept the sentence "Kanifing and Banjul comprise the Greater Banjul Area" since I really don't think there's a more concise phrasing of that, and I don't know how to rephrase "the most densely populated part of the Gambia" while staying faithful to the source. I've checked for close paraphrasing from other sources and I believe I have addressed everything. Also removed the wrong statistic about refugees, thanks for pointing that out.
      As for article length, it has been expanded much more than fivefold since the expansion began. The prose size as of the revision before my edits was 561 B. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 16:00, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      You're right on the expansion, I was calculating one diff off, so my concern about length was mistaken. On the paraphrasing, there is still some rewriting needed. Shifting a few words doesn't remove the text echoing the source in style and structure. Shifting from saying the area has most of the country's coastal resorts and hotels to saying it has most of the country's hotels and coastal resorts does not read as a new piece of writing. "Youth unemployment (those aged 15–35 years) is 6.5%, lower than many districts in the country" should not be copied with a small change to "youth unemployment rate is 6.5%, lower than most of the country". The shifting of the "It includes Serrekunda" sentence did not affect its structure being lifted from the source. The salient information should be extracted from the source, not the sentences or structure. For example, the article currently has the text "...people who are 15 or older...and 254,337 who are unemployed". I've just realised that that figure doesn't match the preceding figures, so please check that, but whatever the figure is, that is a place that information about youth unemployment would naturally fit, say "Of workers between 15 and 35, just 6.5% are unemployed." CMD (talk) 17:43, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      More tweaks made, though it may be imperfect as I'm multitasking right now. Kept the phrasing "lower than most of the country" since it's more precise than just saying it's "low". I can't think of a better phrasing for the sentence about hotels. Thanks for putting in more effort than most DYK reviewers would. And thanks for pointing out the unemployment statistic; that's the kind of blunder that happens when I've stared at PDFs with tables for a bit too long. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 18:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Chipmunkdavis: I have gone through the article and sources again and I think there are no more issues with close paraphrasing. Do you think the article meets DYK criteria now? — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 21:22, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks for the expansion. I'm still uneasy about passing with the structural similarities identified, which have not changed in the edits. I asked at WT:DYK for a second opinion but haven't heard back. In the meantime, would you be willing to request an edit at WP:GOCER? CMD (talk) 06:26, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        Sure, yeah, I think requesting a copyedit is a good idea. I'll do that. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 16:16, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        Since the issues were with close paraphrasing and weren't answered at WT:DYK before the request was archived, I'm going to ping Nikkimaria to see whether she thinks the issues have been sufficiently addressed, since she's an expert on this sort of thing. With a two-month maximum nomination duration having become a hard and fast rule at DYK, requesting a copyedit at GOCE is no longer a feasible option at DYK, since such requests take an average of over three months to be completed. At the moment, there are still pending requests from May 2024. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • I don't have access to all of the sources, but do see some minor issues among those that I have available. If there is concern about rephrasing while remaining faithful to the source, more use could be made of direct quotation. For example, Since women were banned from regular services in 2003 could be replaced with the quote "Since women were banned from the Markaz in 2003". 02:51, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Daniela Larreal

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  • ... that although cyclist Daniela Larreal thought in 2004 that she would only have a few more years in her career, she was preparing for the 2016 Summer Olympics when forced into exile?
  • Source: Sources in article
5x expanded by Kingsif (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 131 past nominations.

Kingsif (talk) 20:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Kingsif: Note that if a subject is featured on ITN under Recent deaths, it remains eligible for DYK. DYK ineligibility only applies to bolded links in blurbs (so for example, Paetongtarn Shinawatra is ineligible for DYK for one year after the blurb was posted), but not to Recent deaths entries. With that in mind, are you sure you want to withdraw the nomination instead of allowing it to proceed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: If that's the case, happy to proceed with it, and I've struck my last comment. Kingsif (talk) 15:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Public image of JB Pritzker

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(Other sources in the article discuss each group more in depth, such as the Chicago Tribune one)
Created by Microplastic Consumer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Microplastic Consumer (talk) 22:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hooks about opinions usually require some kind of attribution. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:07, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are essentially hundreds of JB Pritzker fan accounts, some of whom who have received media coverage (See sources linked here and in the article). "Nomadic Warriors for Pritzker" is one of this accounts, and refers to Pritzker as the "Great Khan" Microplastic Consumer (talk) 12:12, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe something like ALT2 ... that JB Pritzker has been nicknamed the "Great Khan of the Midwest" by supporters? would work then? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:26, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Review: On hold due to merge tag. Viriditas (talk) 23:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The nominator indicated in the merge discussion that they are open to a merge, which I interpret as at least being okay with the article being merged. With that in mind and the article's days essentially being numbered, I do not think it will survive the merger discussion and thus be featured on DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:51, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Jools Lebron

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Created by Willthacheerleader18 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 247 past nominations.

Launchballer 16:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Arekia Bennett

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Created by CaptainAngus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

CaptainAngus (talk) 16:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Two alternative hooks below:
ALT1: ...that despite intending to become a physics teacher, Arekia Bennett turned to civic activism due to her political concerns regarding reproductive rights and the electoral process?
Additional source for ALT1: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/25/us/freedom-summer-mississippi-votes.html “This is about creating a culture of civic engagement, not just during the election season. We want people to understand the political landscape and be involved on and off the clock,” said Ms. Bennett, a Jackson State University graduate who wanted to be a physics teacher before turning to civic activism.
ALT2: ...that voting-rights activist Arekia Bennett based a 2017 mass voter registration effort in Mississippi on Freedom Summer?
Source for ALT2: https://jacksonadvocateonline.com/ms-votes-the-next-generation-of-freedom-fighters-are-here/ “In 2017, [the organization] started to test this theory of what it means to do mass voter registration in the same ways that folks did during Freedom Summer,” says Bennett.
CaptainAngus (talk) 01:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure about these hooks either: #1 are very common reasons for political activism in the US and #2 is a commonly cited inspiration for voter registration. (t · c) buidhe 02:40, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Additional alternative hooks below:
ALT2a: ...that voting-rights activist Arekia Bennett aimed to recreate Freedom Summer, Mississippi's 1964 voter registration drive, in 2017?
Source for ALT2a: https://jacksonadvocateonline.com/ms-votes-the-next-generation-of-freedom-fighters-are-here/ “In 2017, [the organization] started to test this theory of what it means to do mass voter registration in the same ways that folks did during Freedom Summer,” says Bennett.
ALT3: ...that Arekia Bennett is focused on voting rights for Mississippi citizens including young queer people and children who have gone through the juvenile justice system?
Source for ALT3: https://www.djournal.com/mississippi-today/the-story-behind-the-technology-that-mississippi-votes-uses-to/article_8fe12716-715e-56e3-9a32-fc3a38f033e8.html Arekia Bennett throws herself into a chair in front of a dark red accent wall and rattles off a list of positions she hopes to fill as quickly as possible at Mississippi Votes, the nonprofit she has led as executive director for almost a year. <break> More specifically, they focus on people ages 18 to 35 as well as young queer people and people who have experienced the juvenile justice system.
CaptainAngus (talk) 01:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on August 23

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Atsuko Tanaka (voice actress)

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5x expanded by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 52 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 16:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Diet culture

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  • ... that diet culture was intertwined with scientific racism in the late 19th century, including the common belief among medical practitioners that black women were unable to control their consumption?
  • Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-racist-roots-of-fighting-obesity2/, “In the eyes of many medical practitioners in the late 19th century, Black women were destined to die off along with the men of their race because of their presumed inability to control their “animal appetites”—eating, drinking and fornicating. These presumptions were not backed by scientific data but instead embodied the prevailing racial scientific logic at the time. Later, some doctors wanted to push Black men to reform their aesthetic preferences. Valorizing voluptuousness in Black women, these physicians claimed, validated their unhealthy diets, behaviors and figures.”
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I’m open to alternative hook ideas. Thank you very much!
Moved to mainspace by FortunateSons (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

FortunateSons (talk) 17:20, 23 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Everything is fine, there is no error. The article was moved to mainspace with a procedural move by an AfC’er, so noting it was moved to mainspace up above by yourself is acceptable, as it could refer to the general process alone in this instance. If nobody reviews in the next several days, I will do so. Viriditas (talk) 08:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I’m happy to straightforwardly cut down per your suggestion (that diet culture was connected with scientific racism in the 19th century, including the belief among doctors that black women were unable to control their eating?), or would alternatively suggest (that the 19th-century belief among doctors that black women were unable to control their eating is now considered part of diet culture?) I would cite to the teen vogue article (ref 3) either way to avoid any OR issue, but trust your judgement regarding which hook is better? FortunateSons (talk) 18:36, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: @FortunateSons: Aside from the length of the hook, I am seeing other issues, mostly minor grammar and style, although I do have some question about the overall presentation such as your use of the Scientific American SA article to discuss the antecedents of diet culture, a comparison that isn't explicitly stated. Keep in mind, "diet culture" as a term began in 2010. I note that the SA article cites two articles, one in Psychological Science (2015) and an op-ed in BMC Medicine (2018), while also noting there are others. As your other sources make clear, we are talking about two main issues in regards to "diet culture": the promotion of restrictive diets and the stigmatization of the obese. The SA article addresses the latter, but doesn't directly connect it to our topic. However, I think it is safe to say that others might, and I'm currently trying to help find them. We need to be really careful with original research and to only go as far as the sources do. Viriditas (talk) 20:17, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Part of the problem is that you have competing narratives that are rooted in different disciplines. For example, you have the narrative of the health sciences, which has elements of the history of medicine. This is overlayed with the narratives of the fat acceptance movement, which has its own perspectives and opinions, and the narrative of feminists and black history. As long as this is all based on the 2010 understanding of "diet culture", everything is fine, but this isn't immediately clear. I notice the scholarly literature isn't being used as much as it could be here. One way to address this problem directly is to fold all the subtopics into coherent narratives related to the main characteristics of diet culture. As I wrote above, one of your sources discusses the two major ones, the promotion of restrictive diets and the stigmatization of the obese. I think it's easier to follow all the subtopics when they are written about in that context, and if possible, to expand the other characteristics. This also has great benefits for the reader as it formalizes and organizes the topic. In such an outline, racism would be discussed in a section about stigmatization, etc. Viriditas (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Unknown
  • Interesting: Unknown
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Current hook and source are not explicitly about "diet culture". There are, however, related aspects about diet culture and racism in other sources that may be used instead. Additional problems discussed above. Jovanovski & Jaeger 2022 discuss the complexity of the topic and the interweaving narratives in their paper, a perspective that isn't reflected in the article (for example, neither the lead nor the body make it clear that this topic is part of the anti-diet movement composed of a coalition of feminists, fat activists and health professionals, etc.) Additional work is needed to frame this subject accurately within the strict narrative of sources about "diet culture". Another issue is the current controversy around the subject. As you may know, The Washington Post attacked many of the people associated with the movement as a front for "Big Food", although there are questions as to whether this criticism is legitimate.[15][16][17] NPR covered this in April.[18] One of the takeaways here is that the term "diet culture" is part of the anti-diet movement and this isn't clear in the article. There is also a strong relationship with fatphobia, and it may be instructive to review the article on the social stigma of obesity. Given that race and fat acceptance is already covered in that article, I'm wondering if we really need two articles on this subject. I think we could conceivably keep this treatment separate using several different approaches. For example, registered dietitian and nutritionist Christy Harrison (who studied public-health nutrition at NYU) gives the subject an extensive treatment in her book Anti-Diet (2019). There, she defines the subject as "a system of beliefs that equates thinness, muscularity, and particular body shapes with health and moral virtue; promotes weight loss and body reshaping as a means of attaining higher status; demonizes certain foods and food groups while elevating others; and oppresses people who don't match its supposed picture of 'health.'" I think if we stick closely to the sources about diet culture we should be able to salvage this article. Viriditas (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dilaw (song)

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  • ... that "Dilaw" was a dominant song in the Philippines and gained international recognition?
  • ALT2: ... that the creator of "Dilaw" is a leading OPM artist with the most listeners on Spotify?
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: The title of Dilaw (Maki song) changed to Dilaw (song).
Created by Royiswariii (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Royiswariii (talk) 16:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a review, but the hooks are a bit suspicious. The hooks have a summary of the song, which isn't regularly added to hooks, maybe trim like this? ALT0:... that "Dilaw" was the dominating song in the Philippines and international too? and ALT1: ... that "Dilaw" was entered on Billboard Philippines securing the number one spot, and the Spotify Global Chart entered at number 200? and I also saw two "hooks" in alt1, which can be added here, ALT2: ... that the creator of the song Dilaw is a male OPM artist with the most listeners on Spotify? Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 11:53, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - Oof, most of the hooks are normal for singers like him, there are multiple examples of dominant songs in the Philippines which gained international recognition.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: A lot of problems here, I'm sure you can fix them in one week or-so. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 12:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoon Virginia (1957)

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  • ... that along with fatalities and damages, 1957's Typhoon Virginia also damaged 14 ships?
Created by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 13:18, 23 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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Statue of John Stockton

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  • ... that the sculptor re-positioned the statue of John Stockton about 20 times by using a wrench to adjust ball-and-socket joints on steel rods?
Moved to mainspace by Left guide (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Left guide (talk) 13:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ Robinson, Doug (June 14, 2004). "Sculpting Stockton no way a slam-dunk". Deseret News. Retrieved August 24, 2024.
  2. ^ Kalbrosky, Bryan (January 25, 2022). "Somebody put a mask on a John Stockton statue because he refuses to do it himself". USA Today. Retrieved August 24, 2024.
  3. ^ McCarriston, Shanna (January 25, 2022). "Fan puts face mask on John Stockton statue outside of Jazz's Vivint Arena". CBS Sports. Retrieved August 24, 2024.

Bed Chem, Juno (song)

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Converted from a redirect by MaranoFan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 72 past nominations.

NØ 14:11, 25 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Albert Bumgardner

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  • ... that the Pacific Architect & Builder boosted Albert Bumgardner's career after he designed the magazine's office building?
Created by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 76 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:27, 24 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Slave-owning slaves

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Pope Callixtus I, former slave of a slave of a slave
Pope Callixtus I, former slave of a slave of a slave
  • Source: Gamauf (2023),"Peculium: Paradoxes of Slaves With Property". In Schermaier, Martin (ed.). The Position of Roman Slaves: Social Realities and Legal Differences. Berlin and Boston: De Gruyter. pp. 87–124. doi:10.1515/9783110987195.
  • Reviewed:
Created by Ttocserp (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Ttocserp 15:37, 24 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - Per DYK rules, you need at minimum one citation at the end of each paragraph that covers all content preceding it. You also need a source for all statements introduced in captions (not cited elsewhere in the article) that go beyond identification of the image's subject. I've added some cn tags where a citation is missing, or axed transition sentences that Wikipedia tends not to use, but I may have missed some.
  • Neutral: No - I'd like to see the talk page complaint resolved
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Interesting article. Please consider WP:GAN! (t · c) buidhe 00:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, my laptop was off being repaired. I would gladly adress the concerns, but someone has put on a template saying it reads like a personal essay. (Why is not explained; I got everything from the sources.). What should I do?Ttocserp 21:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If Callixtus I was a slave owned by a slave owned by a slave, he wouldn't be an example of a slave who owned a slave, would he? Or at least not necessarily. Bremps... 06:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Callixtus is an instance of a sub-sub-slave not a slaveowner himself. But it is true the caption needs to be amended.Ttocserp 09:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ttocserp: Please address the above. For what it's worth, I agree that this reads like a personal essay and I would suggest taking it to WP:GOCE if you can't see the problem.--Launchballer 09:49, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoon Nat (1991)

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The track of Typhoon Nat
The track of Typhoon Nat
  • ... that 1991's Typhoon Nat was described as having a "most unusual" track (pictured)?
Converted from a redirect by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 12:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The hook is located under Analysis, which contains no inline citations.
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The above issues need to be addressed. Also, the article calls the track "erratic," which makes more sense than "erroneous," which is the word the hook uses. Ergo Sum 16:01, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @TheNuggeteer: Thanks for adding the inline citation. However, since that is a 96 page PDF, there should be citations to specific pages at each inline use, for example, using {{Sfn}}. I did a quick control-F search in that PDF and "erratic" does not come up, so citation to a specific page is necessary. Ergo Sum 01:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Page citation is good. However, unless I am still missing it on page 44, I do not see the words "random" or "erratic" as descriptions of the typhoon's movement. I see "most unusual," which is not the same thing as either of those words. Ergo Sum 13:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Changed the hook to fit the words. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 13:09, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The parts of the article that support the hook still say "erratic" and "random." Once those are corrected, the hook will be ready to go. Ergo Sum 13:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Self-Ish

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Created by Koopastar (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Koopastar (talk) 07:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is both new and long enough. No copyright violation. Article is presentable. Both sources are cited, one with one with a local newspaper and a student newspaper. No QPQ necessary. I feel the ALT1 is more interesting. I also think it might make more sense, in the original proposal, for the word "express" to be replaced with the word "portray" or "depict". Overall a solid nomination.

Happy of the End

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  • ... that Ogeretsu Tanaka wanted to draw a manga series featuring scenery in Shinjuku, which led to the creation of Happy of the End?
Created by Lullabying (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 59 past nominations.

lullabying (talk) 03:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Pell v The Queen

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Moved to mainspace by MaxnaCarta (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

— MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:59, 27 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Any takers? It's been three weeks since I nominated. My nomination remains valid, but I'm hoping to attract the eyes of someone scrolling past given the length of time it has been since I nominated. Happy for a QPQ from someone. — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:40, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Ohio Issue 1

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  • ... that the Republican-led Ohio Ballot Board was sued because its official summary for Ohio Issue 1, designed to improve redistricting, stated instead that the initiative would require gerrymandering?
  • Source: the Board's summary "describes the amendment, which is specifically intended to prevent partisan gerrymandering, as specifically requiring it."
https://apnews.com/article/ohio-gerrymandering-redistricting-bd589ead234436f1b113b35d28c71cc7#
Created by ProfGray (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

ProfGray (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Time (2021 film)

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  • Sources: Lim, Ruey Yan (18 July 2022). "Patrick Tse is oldest Best Actor winner at Hong Kong Film Awards". The Straits Times. Archived from the original on 24 August 2024. Retrieved 24 August 2024. Veteran actor Patrick Tse has become the oldest actor to win the Best Actor prize at the Hong Kong Film Awards (HKFA) on Sunday (July 17), while Anita, the biopic on late Cantopop superstar Anita Mui, was the biggest winner with five awards. Tse, 85, won the award for his role as a retired assassin in the black comedy Time, which also starred veteran actress Petrina Fung Bo Bo, actor Lam Suet and former radio DJ Chung Suet Ying.; "Dad joins son with film award". The Standard. 19 July 2022. Archived from the original on 19 July 2022. Retrieved 24 August 2024. Patrick Tse Yin, aged 85, has become the oldest Best Actor winner in the Hong Kong Film Awards for his role in the 2021 film Time.
Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 13:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: @Prince of Erebor: I would like to review this DYK later tonight or tomorrow morning if someone doesn't get to it before I do. Please consider moving the link to the front of the hook for maximum visits. Right now, it appears as the third link in the hook which could decrease hits. Note, I moved your sources back into the above heading because {{reflist-talk}} was appearing at the bottom. I think it's fine at the top. Viriditas (talk) 03:23, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your feedback, Viriditas. Here is a revised version:
ALT1: "that Time was the film in which Patrick Tse won the Hong Kong Film Award for Best Actor at the age of 85, making him the oldest recipient of the award?" —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 07:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: @Prince of Erebor: I'm reading through the article now. I wanted to raise a few minor issues:
Lead
  • Was the film released in Asian markets as "Fight 'Till Dusk"? If possible, it would be helpful to translate that and add it, as that title makes a lot more sense than "Time".
  • The word "senile" is being used to describe Chau in the lead and nowhere else. There's no indication in the film that Chau is "senile" other than his poor time-management skills as a noodle chef. However, that scene in the film speaks more to automation than it does to his psychological state. This makes me wonder if the word was used in English-language promotional material. Might be best to delete "senile" and just call him a "retired contract killer". We also know that Chung used the word "senile" to describe Chau, not literally, but as a deceptive ruse to allow her to get her cell phone back and to help Chau evade the police. Perhaps that is the root of the confusion here? Of course, if the writer speaks to this term, that would be helpful to detail, but I remain suspicious of it, and this concern segues into my next point.
  • The word "orphaned" is used multiple times to refer to Chung, but this appears to be a different use of the term than in English. In the film, Chung is what we call in the states a kind of latchkey kid who is the product of divorced parents. In English, we wouldn't use the term orphaned, as that usually refers to a child raised without their parents due to their deaths. On the other hand, there's a good argument to be made that Chung is a metaphorical orphan, and there's probably a good English word for that kind of thing but it escapes me at the moment.
  • The film was premiered. You can remove "was".
Plot
  • The plot section has several issues. Chung tries to confess to Ching Ching, only to learn she is about to retire and get married in Macau. This actually happens later in the plot when you write Chung sells his van and gives the money as a blessing to Ching Ching. That's when he learns she is about to retire and get married in Macau. In the first part, he asks her to consider retiring and marrying him, but she implies he is too old and their relationship is purely transactional; that's the difference.
  • Chau is suddenly ambushed and attacked by thugs employed by Bun to kill him at his home. This may be fine, but I didn't get the impression that Bun's friends were going to kill him. Did I miss something? It's probably likely that I didn't pickup on the nuance. Did anyone say they were going to kill him? Not a big deal, but I did wonder about this.
  • They manage to rescue her from an underground clinic. It may be helpful to describe it as an underground abortion clinic (see for example Jane Collective). For some reason, this major plot point is glossed over and ignored, specifically with Bun compelling her to get the abortion.
  • Fung continues to perform as a singer in the elderly home, and Tsz-ying gives birth to the baby, which she raises together with Chau. Given the movie poster and the iconic scene, am I wrong to assume that Fung continued performing in the elderly home, but moved out to be with Chau and help him raise the baby? Or are they just enjoying the moment together? The reason I ask, is there did seem to be some unstated romantic tension between the two of them earlier in the film that was never resolved, or was it?
Cast
  • Lam Suet as Chung, Chau's former accomplice and getaway driver who becomes an unemployed brothel frequenter. I think the term "unemployed brothel frequenter" is a bit torturous and is deserving of a copyedit and rewrite.
Production
  • In the same year, Ho acquainted with actor Gordon Lam and showed him the screenplay. "Acquainted with" is odd wording. You could say "Ho became acquainted with" or some other permutation.
  • Lam proposed to reset the theme. Do you mean "rewrite"? I would just say "Lam proposed rewriting the theme".
  • with himself attaching to the project as co-writer and producer. Try "attaching himself to the project" instead.
  • where Ko was actually intending to pitch an original screenplay to Lam. Remove "actually".
  • Lam also personally invited Patrick Tse and Petrina Fung to star in the project, both of whom had stayed out of showbiz, and the two had not co-starred together for over sixty years. Try instead: "Lam invited Patrick Tse and Petrina Fung to star in the project, both of whom had stayed out of showbiz and had not co-starred together for over sixty years."
  • Lam cast Tse as he found the actor resembled many character traits of the main character Chau in real life, and he flew to Malaysia, where Fung had migrated, persuading her to come out of retirement. Instead, try: "Lam cast Tse for his resemblance to Chau's character traits in real life; he also flew to Malaysia to persuade Fung to come out of retirement."
Critical response
  • Earwig shows various unquoted passages that need quotes or paraphrasing to avoid copyvio. These include "assisted suicide for the elderly into", "the essence of friendship and family ties", and "the rare leading roles for 1960s stars Patrick Tse and Petrina Fung". There may be additional issues.
Response from nominator
Hello Viriditas, thanks for your thorough and helpful review! I have learnt a great deal from your feedback. Problems in Cast, Production, and Critical response were addressed.
Regarding Lead#3, I usually extract adjectives from sources in character descriptions to avoid original research, and "orphaned" is how SCMP describes Chung's role. (But when Chau finds his latest client to be the orphaned schoolgirl Tsz-ying (Chung Suet-ying, The Way We Keep Dancing))
As for Plot#3, if I recall correctly, that part mainly consists of a long fight sequence, which I do not think has many notable elements to write. Nonetheless, I have expanded that part slightly to explain how Bun tries to nudge Tsz-ying into having an abortion.
I also felt a bit confused by the issue in Plot#4 while writing the article, as the film never clarifies what Fung is doing in Chau's house. The entire scene is silent, accompanied only by the film's theme song. Since the character motives are so ambiguous and I could not find any sources explaining the characters' endings, I chose to use Fung's second-to-last appearance, where she performs at the elderly home, instead. I am open to your suggestions on how to rewrite this part to better align with the plot.
Thank you for taking the time to review the article once again! —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 05:30, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Prince of Erebor: Thank you for addressing the main concerns. I'm going to do a second read through now because there's a few things that I missed that may need your attention. There's also the final issue of the hooks. Regarding ALT0, you write "Patrick Tse won the Hong Kong Film Award for Best Actor with the film Time at the age of 85, making him the oldest recipient of the award". I think it's obvious that you don't want to repeat the word "for" twice here, but I can't help but think Tse winning the award "with" the film Time just doesn't work. Yes, it should be "for", but if you do that, then you get "Hong Kong Film Award for Best Actor for the film Time". There is an obvious solution here. Try something like "... that Patrick Tse won Best Actor at the Hong Kong Film Awards for the film Time at the age of 85, making him the oldest recipient of the award?" You don't have to do it like that, but it nicely eliminates the "for" repetition. Play around with it and see if you can come up with other hooks. ALT1 was a good attempt, but I still prefer ALT0 over it. Viriditas (talk) 18:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Additional issues on second read-through
Lead
  • the film follows a retired killer (Tse) who returns to business by providing euthanasia to suffering elderly
  • I wonder if this is a British English thing, but in US English, we expect "the suffering elderly". If this is a BE difference, then ignore my suggestion.
  • The film premiered at the 45th Hong Kong International Film Festival on 4 April 2021, followed by a theatrical release in Hong Kong on 15 July.
  • This might be fine, but do we really need to know the exact days of the premiere and the release in the lead? I'm all for specificity in the body, but in the lead, at least in my mind, simply writing the months should suffice. Just my opinion, of course, but I find highly detailed leads like this detract from the presentation. The reader, IMO, doesn't need to know 4 April and 15 July in the lead, as it already appears in the infobox to the right, but it's okay if you disagree and keep it there.
Synopsis
  • are a formidable team of contracted killers
  • Fung has become a lounge singer and operator, but recently has a falling out with her son after he demands she sell her house and lounge in order to purchase
  • I think you can remove "recently" and "in order" as they aren't needed.
  • Chung, unemployed, has become a frequent brothel patron and fallen in love with a prostitute named Ching Ching.
  • Add "now" unemployed. My opinion is that you don't need to say "frequent brothel patron" at all, and the sentence (and story) works fine without it.
  • The team soon receives a new contract, but when Chau arrives at the scene, he finds the client is an old man who hires him to euthanize his terminally-ill wife to end her suffering.
  • Remove "at the scene" as unnecessary. Works well without it.
  • Chau refuses, but that night, he sees on the news that the old man has murdered his wife himself and is arrested by the police.
  • Try "Chau refuses, but later that night the news reports that the old man was arrested for murdering his wife."
  • Chau then proposes to his partners
  • Remove "then".
  • Chau is dissatisfied with her request
  • This might be a bit confusing to people who haven't seen the film. Chau's dissatisfaction is based on his stated code that he explains later in the film: he refuses to kill minors (a person under the age of full legal responsibility). Film plot guidelines allow you to work non-linearly here, even if I did complain about it up above in regard to Chung and Ching Ching. In any case, you could write "Chau refuses to kill minors" here, or some variation on that code to help the reader, as "dissatisfied" doesn't really address it.
  • Chung tries to confess to Ching Ching but is rejected
  • It's not clear as to what Chung is confessing here; is it his love for Ching Ching or his crimes? If I recall, he asked her to marry him. If that's what you mean by confess, then be specific.
  • who has impregnated her and then abandoned her
  • No need to say "her" twice? What about "who has impregnated and then abandoned her"? This is such a common theme in human history (man gets woman pregnant, man leaves) that I'm quite surprised there is no formal term for it.
  • and manages to force Bun promising to take care of the baby
  • Just say "and forces Bun to promise to take care of the baby".
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  • Lam Suet as Chung, Chau's former accomplice and getaway driver who becomes an frequent brothel patron
  • It would be "a" frequent brothel patron here, not "an", but I recommend getting rid of the whole phrase and just saying "who falls in love with a prostitute", as that works much better
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Review in progress: See issues listed above. Viriditas (talk) 22:43, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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YSL Records racketeering trial

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Created by CFA (talk) and 64.189.246.115 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

C F A 💬 02:14, 27 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • @CFA and 64.189.246.115: Great hooks. I think I prefer ALT0 the most followed by ALT1. The nomination was made in time and the hooks all seem to be verified from the sources. The article meets the size requirements and uses in-line citations where necessary. There is a potential copyvio from a Billboard source so you should paraphrase its usage a bit.--NØ 11:43, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Earwig only scores 40% because of WP:LIMITED terms like "Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations" and "Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis" and quotes. There's not really anything to change. C F A 💬 14:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Félag hljómplötuframleiðenda

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Created by Muhandes (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 53 past nominations.

Muhandes (talk) 11:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Michael P. Walsh (Jesuit)

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  • Source: Clark, Alfred E. (April 24, 1982). "Rev. Michael Walsh, Headed Fordham During Fiscal Crisis". The New York Times. p. 11. Archived from the original on November 19, 2022. Retrieved August 28, 2023.: "During his years at Boston College, he saw its enrollment greatly expand, supervised the construction of 15 new buildings..."
Moved to mainspace by Ergo Sum (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 106 past nominations.

Ergo Sum 04:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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You Liked This (Okay, Computer!)

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Created by Koopastar (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Koopastar (talk) 05:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Aviation Accidents in Japan Involving U.S. Military and Government Aircraft Post-World War II

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Created by Global Donald (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Global Donald (talk) 02:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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Eddie Canales

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  • Source: Eddie Canales, who campaigned to prevent migrant deaths, dies at 76, Washington Post: "For years, when unidentified bodies were recovered in the county, they were buried, at times in unmarked graves. Mr. Canales and other activists helped push for the enforcement of a Texas law mandating that unidentified remains undergo DNA testing, and championed the exhumation of unidentified bodies from the county cemetery... The effort led to a horrifying revelation when researchers exhuming a mass burial site at the cemetery found remains “in trash bags, shopping bags, body bags, or no containers at all,”"
Created by Mrfoogles (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Mrfoogles (talk) 22:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Eniaios

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  • Source: "Since 2004, the work has been revealed two or three cycles at a time, at intervals of four years" [19]
Created by Hinnk (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 41 past nominations.

hinnk (talk) 22:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Maximiliano Hernández Martínez

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Maximiliano Hernández Martínez
Maximiliano Hernández Martínez
Improved to Good Article status by PizzaKing13 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 15:30, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

El Eternauta: tercera parte

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Moved to mainspace by Cambalachero (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 125 past nominations.

Cambalachero (talk) 18:49, 29 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - See below.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new and long enough. No problems with Earwig. A few small issues, however. Some of the material in the article lack citations. For example, the lead contains two statements that are missing citations to confirm (they're not confirmed anywhere in the article body). The entire "Plot" section is unsourced. The proposed hook itself is interesting, but needs to be rewritten. It states that Héctor Germán Oesterheld himself was a character in his own comic, who was retained after he died. In fact, the cited source states that the character of Germán was "Oesterheld's character" ("el personaje de Oesterheld"), but does not explicitly state that it is him. (Native Spanish speaker here, by the way.) The source makes clear that the character is certainly based on him; the hook needs to be reworded accordingly. Another detail that needs to be ironed out is that the hook unequivocally states that Oesterheld is dead. However, all sources I've read state that he is presumed dead. Even if his death is certain, I'm not sure that it could've been declared official at the time this third part of the comic was published in 1981, while the Dirty War was still ongoing. Otherwise, this is a very interesting article about a subject I previously had zero knowledge of! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • I have rewritten the lead. Plot sections of articles about works of fiction do not require citations; it is accepted that the book itself is the source. That Oesterheld included himself as a character within the first two stories he wrote does not need to be referenced either, for similar reasons (he's not even the first author who uses that trick, see here). The hook, however, focuses on the real-life stuff about the character. As for his death, it is correct that his death had never been officially confirmed by the military, but his kidnapping was denounced by the family and other organizations shortly after April 1977, and informed by Cadena Informativa on September 1977. It's all in reference 1. A bit off-topic for this article (better suited for HGO's biography, or the second part), but clearly not a situation that Ediciones Record didn't know. They may be in the dark about the details, but not about their star writer being missing and reported kidnapped by the military. Cambalachero (talk) 01:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
*Just a moment, please. Looking over the changes now... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for everybody's patience. The lead has been improved. No problems with the plot! The ALT still needs to be tweaked. Again, he was, in all likelihood, dead by the time the comic was published. However, he seems never to have been officially declared dead, only presumed dead. It seems like splitting hairs, but it's the kind of thing other editors may potentially bring up once the hook goes live. So best to address it now by modifying the ALT with the qualifier "probably". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kitsap (Suquamish leader)

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  • Source: Buerge (2017)[20] p.33: "....when the Suquamish chief Kitsap organized a confederacy to meet a threat from the north."

Ibid. p. 41-42: "The most feared were the Cowichan ... Slave raids had led the Cowichan far from their homes in search of human merchandise ... by spreading havoc on the sound, they likely intended to eliminate rivals and make the HBC come to them"

Ibid. p.42: "The confederation Kitsap engineered stretched from central Puget Sound to the Columbia River, and Old Man House was its nexus."

Ibid. p. 43: "The attack likely took place around 1825 ... Kitsap and other Suquamish men took the lead"
    • Reviewed:
Created by PersusjCP (talk) and SeaTraff (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

PersusjCP (talk) 16:51, 28 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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Seed oil misinformation

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  • ... that despite a panic to the contrary, most researchers think seed oils are healthy and reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease?
  • Source: "most cardiovascular health researchers believe omega-6 fatty acids are safe and healthy. The American Heart Association has stated that a reduction in omega-6 fatty acids could lead to an increase, not reduction, in cardiovascular disease."
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I understand this is beyond the seven-day limit; however, I'd like to request an extension for two reasons. First, that this is my first DYK so I didn't know there was a deadline; and second, that this is a medical-related topic so it's best that the article has been shown to be stable.
Moved to mainspace by Dan Leonard (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Dan • ✉ 04:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Way too weak. It's not a "most researchers think" thing; the seed oil misinformation is utter nonsense on many levels. Bon courage (talk) 06:01, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article was nominated two weeks after creation, which is far beyond the seven day limit, or even the two-day extension that is built in into DYK. As such, the article is ineligible for DYK. Although leniency is sometimes granted to DYK newcomers, two weeks is too long for what is usually granted. My suggestion is to nominate the article for GA status: it may be a challenge given that it is a medicine-related article but it should be achievable. Once the article is a GA it can be renominated for DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just noting that this was moved to mainspace on 29 August and nominated on 9 September, so a smidge under 11 days. Still a big ask though.--Launchballer 02:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've given this some more thought, and while I don't feel strongly enough to overrule, I do think that as a brand new nominator, as a one-off, this should be given a chance.--Launchballer 17:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Allowing a one-time exemption this time considering the length of time involved (around 11 days) would be unfair to other nominators, both new and old, who are not given the same opportunity. If it had only been late by a day or two, it probably would have made more sense and been fairer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lake Erie Walleye Trail fishing tournament cheating scandal

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Created by Daniel Case (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 281 past nominations.

Daniel Case (talk) 19:34, 5 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Moved from WT:DYK § Request for review of anniversary-themed hook

Hi. A couple of weeks ago I nominated Lake Erie Walleye Trail fishing tournament cheating scandal with the idea of getting it on the Main Page on September 30, the two-year anniversary of "We got weights in FISH!!" reverberating around the Internet.

Now would be an ideal time to review it and get it into SOHA before we starting putting queues together. Daniel Case (talk) 04:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Daniel Case: is there a way to make the hook less hypothetical? The article says they might have been heavy enough to win without the weight but also that "it remains unclear if the men caught the fish the day of the tournament or on a prior day." This is such a goofy crime, that I feel there are probably quite a few ways to craft a compelling hook around it. The article otherwise checks out. It's cited, quotes are attributed, no close paraphrasing, meets NPOV, long enough, and expanded 5x. If you try out other hooks, feel free to ping me, Rjjiii (talk) 04:55, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have added to the hook: "* ... that the two anglers caught cheating in a Cleveland fishing tournament two years ago today might have been able to win without putting weights in their fish, assuming the fish were caught that day?" This comes in at just under 200 characters. Daniel Case (talk) 05:11, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Idk, that's pretty textually dense, maybe something like:
  • ... that two anglers went to jail for hiding weights inside of fish that might have been heavy enough to win the tournament without added weight?
Also, I don't know how to get to NPOV within the space of a hook fact, but the bit where the dude loses a $120,000 prize boat after failing a polygraph test (which doesn't even work) about having sex with other women and farm animals is wild. Rjjiii (talk) 06:04, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that would work. Aside from the likely unlikelihood, as you note, that a hook based around that could fit into 200 characters, this claim is somewhat dubious enough to me as to not put it in a hook, since the only source for it in the article is a (admittedly reliably-sourced) interview with one of the anglers, not the one supposedly subjected to this test even, who was at the time merely suspected of cheating, and who has since admitted to doing so. Even the other guy ... if he has gone on the record corroborating it, I didn't find it. To say nothing of the tournament director. Daniel Case (talk) 20:30, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not happy with the hook from a negative BLP point of view. Valereee (talk) 16:07, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also BLP related, I'm concerned that much of the Other criminal charges section may be contrary to WP:SUSPECT. RoySmith (talk) 13:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have condensed this section. Daniel Case (talk) 20:11, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Valereee: Alright ... how about something like:
"...that a man shouting "We got weights in FISH!" went viral online two years ago today?
Daniel Case (talk) 18:30, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That runs afoul of "The hook should include a definite fact that is unlikely to change". Maybe just go full-on quirky:
... that We got weights in FISH?
RoySmith (talk) 19:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But then what's the point of running it on the anniversary? And didn't we have a rule saying hooks had to be clearer than that? Or that is another one we trashed so we could keep things running smoothly?
OK, then, how about:
@Daniel Case, we do often run things on an anniversary without calling it out unless it's somehow important to the reader understanding the hook. We'll run a hook about a composer and not mention that it's the 200th anniversary of his birth, for instance. Often it means more to the nominator and a very small group of readers who are already aware of the anniversary.
The event was on Sept 30, but did it really "go viral" that day? That seems unlikely. Maybe we simply don't need 'today' in there? Valereee (talk) 12:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, but I also feel that allowing anniversary-themed hooks (as we do with FAs) encourages people to create those articles. Daniel Case (talk) 18:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively we could change the person focused on in the hook:

What is your opinion of "...that a man shouting "We got weights in FISH!" went viral online on 30 September 2022??--Launchballer 20:30, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That too many readers are not smart enough to realize that's a two-year anniversary date, and that including the date would be absolutely superfluous on any other date. Daniel Case (talk) 20:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The rule is a bit nitpicky, IMO. It might have happened two years ago 'today' all day in the US, but much of the time it's appearing, the local date is not Sept 30. Meh. People watching the BBC in the am in the US and hearing the anchor mention an incident had happened 'early this afternoon' are able to understand. But that's been the interpretation of the rule. Valereee (talk) 13:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, another one that I hope will be appreciated as BLP-compliant:

I'm still not happy with that from a negative BLP point of view. How about
... that since the We got weights in FISH! incident, directors of an Ohio fishing tournament have routinely cut winning fish open?
That could be a good quirky. Valereee (talk) 13:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think if "quirky" is what we want, and based on your sniffiness about mentioning "today" in the hook at all above, let's just stick with Roy's idea of the catchphrase alone. That will probably get the most hits (maybe even more than "Wake Me Up When September Ends", slated for the same day. Daniel Case (talk) 18:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, one last try at satisfying all these demands:

The sooner the better. Daniel Case (talk) 19:02, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BenSw

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  • ... that BenSw is the face behind the NotLikeThis meme?
Created by Fluddsskark (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 50 past nominations.

paul2520 💬 14:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: I provided one as part of the nomination. See Reviewed above! = paul2520 💬 12:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Norma Bahia Pontes

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 54 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 03:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

List of oral repositories

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  • Source:

[21] pg. 34

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Created by Kowal2701 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Kowal2701 (talk) 16:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

KXXV

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Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 708 past nominations.

Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a review (and as much as I'm thankful for you reviewing three of my GAs, I still review oldest first!), but it took me a while to parse ALT0, as I wrongly assumed it was missing the word "who". I would suggest either "once described as" instead of "claimed to be" or taking out "a man claimed to be". (Also, you mentioned that The Cock Destroyers was a red link at Talk:Megan Barton-Hanson/GA1, and you may be interested to know it now has an article.)--Launchballer 17:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shinichi Ishizuka

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Created by Link20XX (talk). Self-nominated at 00:21, 30 August 2024 (UTC). [reply]

Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs

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Moved to mainspace by Bobby Cohn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Bobby Cohn (talk) 00:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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Mitch Torres

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"We chat to self-proclaimed damper destroyer Mitch (pictured, right) about family cooking rivalries, top-secret ingredients and living off the land." Hegarty, Siobhan (29 January 2015). "18 minutes with Mitch Torres". SBS Food. Special Broadcasting Service. Retrieved 30 August 2024.
Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 40 past nominations.

Ornithoptera (talk) 20:28, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Brenden Bates

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5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 244 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:44, 6 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 56 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 15:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Filomena Fortes

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 55 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 15:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Destruction of cultural heritage during the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip

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The ruins of Al-Amin Muhammad mosque in Khan Younis
The ruins of Al-Amin Muhammad mosque in Khan Younis
  • Source: The information in the hook is drawn from a few different sources:
  • ALT1: ... that historic sites damaged during the Israeli invasion of Gaza include the oldest mosque and the oldest church in Gaza? Source: Multiple again:
    • Improved to Good Article status by Richard Nevell (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    Richard Nevell (talk) 21:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    MyRadar

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    Created by Johnson524 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

    Johnson524 14:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Kim Hye-seon

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    • ... that South Korean comedian Kim Hye-seon once went to the hospital before a recording of the sketch comedy show Gag Concert?
    • Reviewed: N/A
    Created by Wuju Daisuki (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Wuju Daisuki (talk) 22:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Psycho Mantis

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    https://www.escapistmagazine.com/psycho-mantis-quest-ce-que-cest/
    • "But unfortunately for him, these technological shenanigans work both ways – through he can read every button press on controller 1, controller 2 is a mystery to him. By plugging your controller into the second port, your movements are concealed, leaving Psycho Mantis as little more than a bug-eyed piñata."
    https://www.ign.com/articles/2009/11/17/big-boss-of-the-day-metal-gear-solids-psycho-mantis
    • "Gamers will initially find that Mantis can block all of Snake's attacks with ease. The only solution is to physically switch the controller from one port to another."
    Banks, Jamie; Meija, Robert; Adams, Aubrie (June 23, 2017). 100 Greatest Video Game Characters. Rowman and Littlefield Publishers. pp. 155–156. ISBN 978-1442278127.
    • "After this, Psycho Mantis probes deeper by scanning the player’s physical memory card and commenting on select Konami titles; for example, “You like Castlevania, don’t you?”"
    https://www.escapistmagazine.com/psycho-mantis-quest-ce-que-cest/
    • "He turns every scrap of information into a dirty little secret he dangles over your head, even going so far to bring up other games you’ve played: Castlevania, Suikoden, Vandal Hearts. A remake of the game is on the GameCube, and it’s particularly disconcerting to hear Mantis hiss, as if through clenched teeth, “So … you’ve been playing Super Mario Sunshine, haven’t you?”"
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Been a while since I've done a nomination, so I hope everything is alright with this nomination.
    Improved to Good Article status by Pokelego999 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    AdventHealth Daytona Beach

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    Created by Catfurball (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Catfurball (talk) 21:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • This is not intended to be a full review and I have no plans of giving this a full review, but a quick look at the article suggests that this is in need of a copyedit. In addition, the current hook probably does not meet WP:DYKINT as not being likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing. A new hook will be needed here, in any case. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    String Quartet No. 16 (Shostakovich)

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    • Source: "The Thirteen-ness of the Thirteenth Quartet" by Iain Strachan in the DSCH Journal (July 2024): "Shostakovich had apparently intended to make a mathematical version of his DSCH signature in the key sequence of his quartets. Given that the musically logical sequence of keys indicated that if the composer had lived to complete a sixteenth quartet, it would have been in B major, this meant that the major key quartets of DSCH would all have been on the quartets whose numbers were perfect squares, namely 4, 9, 1, and 16".
    • ALT1: ... that there is no String Quartet No. 16 by Dmitri Shostakovich? Source: "Shostakovich and the 'Sixteenth Quartet'" by Krzysztof Meyer and Henny van der Groep in the DSCH Journal (July 2014)
    • ALT2: ... that Dmitri Shostakovich's String Quartet No. 16 has three movements, including a lyrical middle, ends with a double fugue, and does not exist? Source: Ibid; "Fifty Years Ago: April–September 1974" by Krzysztof Meyer (translated by Bryan Rowell) in DSCH Journal (July 2024)
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/El Eternauta: tercera parte
    • Comment: QPQ coming soon. For what it's worth, my preference for these ALTs are in reverse order, with ALT2 being my most preferred. Also, is it possible to run this DYK on September 25, for the 118th anniversary of Shostakovich's birth?
    Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 48 past nominations.

    CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. It is properly sourced; as all the sources are offline I am assuming good faith on verification here. ALT0 has a sourcing issue: the reference backing it up comes at the end of the relevant paragraph; according to WP:DYKG, the supporting footnote should be at the latest at the end of the sentence supporting the hook fact, which in this case is the DSCH signature aspect. ALT2 is a rather complicated hook so I'm rather disinclined to approve it. My preferred hook is actually ALT1; however, the article does not actually seem to back it up. The article is unclear if the String Quartet was even started, or if it was started but simply unfinished: if it was the former, then ALT1 is accurate. To be sure, I'm pinging Kingsif and RoySmith regarding ALT1 as both are knowledgeable about quirky hooks and their suitability. If ALT1 is unsuitable, only ALT0 will be approved.
    There is another major concern: the lack of a QPQ. Per a recent discussion, the guidelines have changed so a QPQ should now be provided at the time of the nomination, rather than up to a week afterwards. As such, please provide a QPQ as soon as possible, as the nomination may be failed without further warning if one is not given soon. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Kingsif and RoySmith: It appears that the above ping did not work for some reason. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:04, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT2 could work, but it's cruising for a pruning, as in ALT2a: ... that Dmitri Shostakovich's String Quartet No. 16 does not exist?--Launchballer 15:35, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you all for bearing with me. QPQ is done. May I suggest the following amended ALT?
    ALT2b: ... that Dmitri Shostakovich's String Quartet No. 16 has three movements, but does not exist?
    @Narutolovehinata5: Meyer seems to imply in the transcript of his 1974 visit to Shostakovich and in his 2014 interview that the quartet was never even sketched. However, in the latter he also states ambiguously (emphasis mine): "[A]las, [Shostakovich] was not able to complete the project regarding the Sixteenth [Quartet]". Neither of the articles cited specifically details how much progress, if any, Shostakovich had made on this work at this point or ever. My copy of Meyer's monograph on the composer (in the Spanish translation) is also of no help; his mention of the work therein is even more fleeting. I've looked through the various books by Sofia Khentova, Shostakovich's official biographer, including her massive two-volume biography, which is far more exhausting in detail than any current English language books on the composer. It mentions various obscure odds-and-ends and aborted projects—but no String Quartet No. 16. Derek C. Hulme's Dmitri Shostakovich: The First Hundred Years and Beyond has an entire appendix devoted to such works. Again, no mention of this quartet. I've also not been able to find mention of it in the various Russian language sources in my personal library or in Levon Akopyan's editorial notes in the ongoing New Collected Works Edition of the quartets. For what it's worth, it's probably more likely that Shostakovich never went beyond working through the quartet in his mind. By 1974, his neuro-muscular disorder had made writing extremely difficult and exhausting for him. Consider that he had not even begun to work on the Fifteenth Quartet on April 11, 1974. (Meyer's visit and questioning may have been the catalyst to finally get work on that going: his first extant sketches are dated April 13.) The penmanship in the autograph copy of his last work, the Viola Sonata from July 1975, clearly evinces that it was a struggle just to get the notes to paper. (By this point, he could only write by having his left hand support his right.) Meyer is by far the most informative source on this cryptic work... but, unfortunately, he leaves a number of questions dangling. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Narutolovehinata5, Launchballer, Kingsif, and RoySmith: Pinging as a courtesy. Please let me know if any work remains to be done on this nom. I'll be happy to amend the ALTs further if needed. Would like this to get approved and be included on the DYK for September 25, the 118th anniversary of Shostakovich's birth. Thank you all. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    As much as I really like the "doesn't exist" angle, it seems that the sourcing and circumstances just aren't strong enough to justify it, so regrettably it may have to be dropped. Maybe Theleekycauldron has some more ideas on how to move forward. ALT0 is probably acceptable, but honestly not as good and I doubt it would get as much interest from readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Could ALT1 possibly work? The wording is also slightly more ambiguous than the other ALTs, which unequivocally state that the work does not exist at all. There really is no "String Quartet No. 16" insofar as a published piece of music is concerned, but the wording of ALT1 doesn't rule out the fact that unfinished sketches, etc. may exist. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT1 is actually the sticking point here. The accuracy of the hook depends on how one interprets "there is no String Quartet No. 16." If one means "it was never made", yes it's accurate. If one means "it never existed", then exactly what "exist" means is the issue. The finished product doesn't exist, but as you said there's ambiguity if sketches or work was made. If they did, it technically did exist, if in an unfinished/unreleased state. Even if not, one could argue that it did exist as a concept if not as a composition that was at least attempted, so the hook is too vague and ambiguous. Even if it were to be approved, I can see it going to WP:ERRORS and/or WT:DYK before being pulled. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:54, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: Give me a few hours to finish some work, then I'll respond. Thanks for bearing with me! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:45, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: Looking over ALT1 again, I'm thinking that perhaps this is simply a semantic debate. Because there really is no "String Quartet No. 16" insofar as there is no published score or any kind of tangible media directly related to it that is available. Even Meyer's derivative work is only based on his own conjectural idea of the work. That he, as a close friend and one of the great scholars of Shostakovich, did not utilize any of the composer's material is telling. It should be noted, too, that Henny van der Groep's title for his DSCH Journal interview places the projected work title within sneer quotes. Of course, I also have new ALTs for your consideration:
    ALT3: ... that you cannot listen to Dmitri Shostakovich's String Quartet No. 16? (Source: "Shostakovich and the 'Sixteenth Quartet'" by Krzysztof Meyer and Henny van der Groep in the DSCH Journal (July 2014))
    ALT4: ... that there is no String Quartet No. 16 by Dmitri Shostakovich to listen to? Ibid.
    ALT5: ... that there is no available score to Dmitri Shostakovich's String Quartet No. 16? Ibid.
    Otherwise, I think ALT0 would be best after all. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:14, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes the objection to ALT1 may seem like semantics, but semantics are actually taken seriously at DYK and can result in hooks getting pulled. Many of the issues raised at WT:DYK or WP:ERRORS are ultimately semantics, but given how much the project wants hooks to be accurate, semantics are important. Among the new suggestions provided, ALT3 is probably the best option and also accurate, but it needs to be reflected in the article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:00, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    1939 New York World's Fair pavilions and attractions

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    Epicgenius (talk) 14:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    No Poop July

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    • ... that the TikTok trend No Poop July garnered backlash from doctors?
    Created by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

    🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 13:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on August 31

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    The Cock Destroyers

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    Top: Sophie Anderson in July 2022. Bottom: Rebecca More in July 2021.
    Top: Sophie Anderson in July 2022. Bottom: Rebecca More in July 2021.
    Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 249 past nominations.

    Launchballer 17:09, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Anaïs Gallagher, Oasis Live '25 Tour, Filthy Lucre Tour

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    Created by Launchballer (talk), Aibo22 (talk), and TheBestEditorInEngland (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 248 past nominations.

    Launchballer 15:28, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    @Launchballer: Since this is a double nomination, you will need to provide an additional QPQ. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have. That's a double nom.--Launchballer 05:55, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Apologies for not noticing! Just make it clear in the nomination so that a reviewer will be aware. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A reviewer should check before ticking it off, but I've added a note anyway. As for adding an additional QPQ, there's probably just enough room for "that after Liam and Noel Gallagher's band Oasis announced for 2025 "the most controversial band reunion since the Sex Pistols' 1996 Filthy Lucre Tour", Noel's daughter Anaïs Gallagher criticised some fans for ageism and sexism?", so you might get lucky. I should probably write the third article first though.--Launchballer 08:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: I have just published Filthy Lucre Tour and would like to nominate it using the QPQ Abortion in Senegal, which I reviewed as part of the triple nom Abortion in Africa. I was wondering if you objected to me swapping out the double I've provided for this with that triple?--Launchballer 02:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As long as the Abortion in Africa QPQ is already a complete review and you plan on reusing the current QPQ in a future nomination, it shouldn't be an issue. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've covered everything in that review, so I've adjusted this nomination. For what it's worth, I'm planning on swapping the double nom for the two singles at The Cock Destroyers and using those on future noms for Talk Talk (Charli XCX song) and Have I Got News For You (US).--Launchballer 02:43, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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    Saleh Shahin

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    Created by Schwede66 (talk) and 2603:7000:2101:AA00:1979:BEF5:5AEC:99F4 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 160 past nominations.

    Schwede66 23:18, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    JerAx

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    • ... that Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka was the first Dota 2 player to reach four consecutive Valve Major finals, achieving this milestone with Team Liquid and OG? Source: [24][25]
      • ALT1: ... that Jesse Vainikka, also known as JerAx, became the highest-earning individual player in esports in 2018 after winning two consecutive The International titles with OG in Dota 2? Source: [26]
      • ALT2: ... that Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka auctioned his Team Liquid gaming chair for €5,300 to benefit the charity, Save the Children, surpassing auction prices of signed jerseys from Lionel Messi and Wayne Rooney? Source: [4]
      • Reviewed:
    Created by Jeraxmoira (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 18:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Responding to this: Per MOS:SURNAME: "After the initial mention, a person should generally be referred to by surname only [...] When a majority of reliable secondary sources refer to persons by a pseudonym, they should be subsequently referred to by their pseudonymous surnames, unless they do not include a recognizable surname in the pseudonym (e.g. Sting, Snoop Dogg, the Edge), in which case the whole pseudonym is used. For people well known by one-word names, nicknames, or pseudonyms, but who often also use their legal names professionally – e.g., André Benjamin ("André 3000"), Jennifer Lopez ("J.Lo"); doctor/broadcaster Drew Pinsky ("Dr. Drew") – use the legal surname."
      I checked the article's refs and they all seem to use the pseudonym, at least in their titles. But if we don't want to use the pseudonym, then the surname Vainikka should be used instead of the given name Jesse. (I left this comment here, because it affects this nomination's caption.) 2001:14BA:9C40:0:2898:CC7C:F3E7:9062 (talk) 19:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think it affects the nomination's caption/hook, as I have used both his real name and his in-game name. Let the reviewer decide if the article/hook needs further clarity regarding the surname. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Partial review here: ALT2 seems the most interesting to me, seconded by ALT1; ALT0 is not as interesting without much esports context. Article is new enough, long enough, and written by the nominator. (Don't plan to review rest, just dropping in) Mrfoogles (talk) 06:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT2 is above the 200 character limit and needs to be trimmed. Maybe something like:
    ALT2a ... that a gaming chair used by Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka sold at an auction for €5,300, surpassing prices of signed jerseys from Lionel Messi and Wayne Rooney?
    Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What about ALT2b: "... that a gaming chair used by Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka sold at a charitable auction for €5,300, surpassing prices of signed jerseys from Lionel Messi and Wayne Rooney?" Also fits within the character limit and mentions that its a charitable auction, which I think is also one of the interesting parts. Changes it from "someone really wanted this gaming chair" to "gaming chairs can be competitive in charitable auctions", kind of. Mrfoogles (talk) 18:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    User:TechnoSquirrel69, I have addressed your concerns regarding the sources. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:42, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for doing that, Jeraxmoira! Unfortunately, you added a reference to the Tech Times, designated as unreliable at this RSN discussion, which prevents me from approving again for the same reasons. However, since this issue seems a lot more manageable than the last one, I'll review the other criteria in anticipation of you addressing it. As an aside, I would recommend installing one or more citation highlighting scripts if you haven't already; they will help you catch reliability issues before they rear their heads.

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: I've struck ALT0 as it is phrased awkwardly and contains too many technical or specialist terms to be interesting or accessible enough to a broad audience. ALT1 is frankly on thin ice as well, as mashing the thematically unrelated facts about the subject's earnings and competition wins is making the sentence confusing. We can workshop it further, or just strike it if you prefer ALT2a and ALT2b better. The picture will probably not be running with the hook, as it's already a bit unclear at Main Page sizes and nearly impossible to make out JerAx in particular. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I already use a citation highlighting script and it did/does not flag any sources in the article as unreliable, apart from the YouTube video. Based on your suggestion, I have removed Techtimes and AFK Gaming and FWIW, the facts in ALT1 are not unrelated, as most of the earnings came from Dota 2 Championships. Alt 2b seems fine to me, so I have struck the remaining. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jeraxmoira: I've gone ahead and removed the image as well. However, some of the sources you've introduced to replace the old ones also seem to have issues. What makes Esports.gg, Win.gg, and TalkEsport reliable? Esports.gg's about page makes no mention of editorial oversight — the typical mark of reliability for web content from Wikipedia's perspective — nor Win.gg's or TalkEsport's. This leads me to believe these are self-published sources, which are unsuitable for use in articles. Another way to demostrate the reliability of these sources was if they were used or approved by other reliable sources, which I haven't found to be the case with some quick searching. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:22, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think you are applying the standards of mainstream journalism to the esports field, which I feel is unfair. AFAIK, these events are not covered by traditional mainstream media, so it's unreasonable to expect a byline or editorial oversight on all the sources used. The claims made here are not exceptional ones that would require following WP:ECREE. I have added multiple sources to back almost all the claims made in the article, including the hook and have removed most of the sources you mentioned. If you're still skeptical, I would request that you leave it to an editor/reviewer who is familiar with evaluating E-sports sources/sources that aren't from mainstream news media. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 19:42, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have no objections to a second opinion from another reviewer, but Wikipedia guidelines do not apply differently based on the topic area. I'm not saying that any of the information here is exceptional and requires featured article–quality sources; when it comes to web content of any kind, the absolute bare minimum for source reliability is an editorial review or attribution to a subject-matter expert such as a qualified academic (which likely wouldn't apply here). It's also important to remember that the biographies of living persons policy applies to the subject of this article, and self-published sources should never be used unless they were by the subject themselves. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    These are not self-published sources. This is how esports coverage looks. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:27, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Pan He

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    Zhuhai Fisher Girl
    Zhuhai Fisher Girl
    • ... that the Chinese sculptor Pan He used his Reunion to commemorate both the handover of Macau and his return to his beloved cousin?
    • Source: Jiang, Xinchen (November 26, 2020). "潘鹤：渔女之父的珠海情缘" [Pan He: The Father of the Fisherwoman and His Love for Zhuhai]. Southcn.com (in Chinese). China South Publishing & MediaGroup. Archived from the original on September 1, 2024. Retrieved September 1, 2024.
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 677 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Apologies, I should have said "not a review (and I review oldest first so would not get to this any time soon)". (Not sure why I forgot, I say that literally every other time.)--Launchballer 01:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Full review needed for both articles.--Launchballer 01:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on September 3

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    Anna Haifisch

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    Anna Haifisch
    • ... that the comics character The Artist shares a common temperament with its creator, cartoonist Anna Haifisch (pictured)?
    Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 23 past nominations.

    Munfarid1 (talk) 20:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Hymenophyllum axsmithii

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    • ... that the filmy fern Hymenophyllum axsmithii was suggested to be closer in relation to a neotropical species group and not a local native species?
    • Source: Pigg et al (2001) page 804 "Similarly, the new record of Hymenophyllum axsmithii as a member of subgenus Sphaerocionium and morphologic similarities to extant epiphytic humid tropical montane forest species of Sphaerocionium highlight climatic and biogeographical linkages between the early Eocene Okanogan Highlands of the Pacific Northwest of North America and the Neotropics. ...the family in the region, which today hosts a single species, Hymenophyllum wrightii" (in a different subgenus per Chang et al 2022 " Subgenus Mecodium"
    • ALT1: ... that researchers want Hymenophyllum axsmithii rhizomes so they can tell if the filmy fern was up a tree? Source: Pigg et al (2021) page 803 "Currently, the fossil record for Hymenophyllaceae reviewed in this article is not sufficiently robust, particularly with respect to critical features of the rhizome, to establish the presence of an epiphytic growth form. ... Clearly, finding additional fossil representatives of Hymenophyllaceae with rhizomes will be essential for documenting the origin and evolution of the epiphytic growth habit within this family.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Strobilanthes tonkinensis
    Moved to mainspace by Kevmin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 358 past nominations.

    Kevmin § 20:21, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    The Nualas

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    Created by Bogger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 26 past nominations.

    Bogger (talk) 14:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on September 4

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    Gigi Perez, Sailor Song (song)

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    Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk), Ss112 (talk), MC-123 (talk), and Heartleap (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 250 past nominations.

    Launchballer 09:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: No - Not a super surprising thing for a songwriter to say

    QPQ: No - Not done
    Overall: Recognize that QPQs are coming up, so this is a bit early; only issue is I feel like the hook could be a bit more interesting. Mrfoogles (talk) 17:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Proposing ALT1: "... that songwriter Gigi Perez first went viral for a song on TikTok, where she had begun to upload videos to cope with her grief?". Maybe Gigi Perez could use ALT1, and Sailor Song could use ALT0, if it is possible to add two DYKs with one nomination? Also, since I'm new, if anyone wanted to double-check my copyvio checking that would be appreciated (not that I think there is any). Mrfoogles (talk) 17:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello. You can definitely split up a nomination post hoc - see Talk:Lucy Tun for one such example - however hook interestingness does not depend on topic, so if it isn't good enough for Gigi, it won't be good enough for Sailor Song. I've taken the liberty of renumbering your ALT0a to ALT1 as it introduces new information, and would suggest ALT1a: that the "Sailor Song" songstress Gigi Perez first began uploading content to TikTok to cope with grief? - but you will still need a new reviewer for that. I do however wonder if it's worth leaving 'not a democracy' out of ALT0 and running the rest, i.e. ALT0a: ... that the lyrics of Gigi Perez's "Sailor Song" received criticism from far-right conservative Christian communities?--Launchballer 22:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, I have no idea what you mean by "QPQs are coming up" - I've done everything required by WP:DYKRI.--Launchballer 15:18, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mrfoogles: Please address the above.--Launchballer 17:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Launchballer: Okay, you could have just asked: we're all volunteers here. I think that when I first reviewed you were only partway through the reviews, so I figured that it probably wasn't time yet. QPQs do look done now; going to leave this to another reviewer to pick the hook. Personally I think ALT0a sounds fine, but I like ALT1 a lot (the exact phrasing might not be perfectly, but I think it's interesting): maybe if it was split, ALT0a could be used without Gigi Perez bolded, and then ALT1 for the second DYK? Otherwise, if they are not split, ALT0a seems good. Mrfoogles (talk) 18:10, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on September 5

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    Come In (Weatherday album)

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    • ... that several characters from a webcomic Weatherday wrote appear in their album Come In?
    • Source: [27] "The album as a whole is set up like my webcomic which I sort of based things from the album on along with my own life. The character Agatha is from that comic and same with Oswald and Ines."
    • ALT1: ... that after the original run sold out, vinyl copies of Come In were put up for sale on Discogs for as much as $100? Source: [28] "Last year, U.S. indie label Topshelf, a crucial fourth-wave emo outlet, dropped a double-LP reissue of Come In, and the whole run of 2,000 sold out—if you want a pristine copy, be prepared to pony up $100 on Discogs."
    • ALT2: ... that Come In was recorded on a hands-free microphone attached to a pair of headphones? Source: [29] "I used the headphone mic because I didn’t have a better one and thought I could do without one."
      Album liner notes (viewable on Bandcamp) "Honorable mention to the hands-free mic attached to my headphones which I recorded this album on"
    • ALT3: ... that Come In was inspired by a webcomic that Weatherday wrote? Source: [30] "Mio is a character from a webcomic I made back in 2016-2017 [...] I used Mio on the album cover cause I drew inspiration from the webcomic when I was making the album"
      [31] "The album as a whole is set up like my webcomic which I sort of based things from the album on along with my own life."
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    • Comment: I created the page in the draftspace and OhHaiMark moved it into the mainspace. This is my first DYK nomination and first time building up an article, please let me know if I did anything wrong!
    Moved to mainspace by OhHaiMark (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    LeMeilleurMiel (talk) 21:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Moses da Rieti

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    Created by Andrevan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    cc @User:GordonGlottal Andre🚐 19:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Or you could just replace "terza rima" with "rhyming verse form" in the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure. Andre🚐 18:31, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on September 6

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    Empirical Labs Distressor

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    Two Empirical Labs Distressors
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    Moved to mainspace by The Midnite Wolf (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    The Midnite Wolf (talk) 11:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Michael Sugrue

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    • ... that Michael Sugrue became an "internet phenomenon" during the COVID-19 pandemic for his lectures on YouTube covering "the last 3,000 years of Western intellectual history” recorded in 1992?
    • Source: "Michael Sugrue, 66, Dies; His Talks on Philosophy Were a YouTube Hit

    After an academic career spent in near obscurity, he became an internet phenomenon during the pandemic by uploading talks he had given three decades earlier.

    The college lecturer, in a uniform of rumpled khakis and corduroy blazer, paces on a small stage, head down. “The lectures you’re about to see,” he says in introducing a series of talks, videotaped in somewhat hokey lo-fi style in 1992, “cover the last 3,000 years of Western intellectual history.""

    NY Times
    Moved to mainspace by Thriley (talk), GuardianH (talk), and Etyuxdy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 142 past nominations.

    Thriley (talk) 17:49, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    1917 Łódź City Council election

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    Campaign poster for the 1917 Łódź City Council election
    • ... that whilst socialists got 31% of the votes in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (campaign poster pictured), they only won five seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?
    • Source: Telma Tadeusz. Pierwsze wybory do Rady Miejskiej m. Łodzi, in Rocznik Łódzki, Vol. 11 (14). Państwowe Wydawnictwu Naukowe, 1966. pp. 134, 138-146, Antoni Goerne. Wybory do Rady Miejskiej w Lodzi w styczniu 1917, in Informator m Lodzi z kalendarzem na rok 1919. pp. 76-83
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 396 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • I'm not taking on the review, but just leaving a comment, as I'm puzzled. Without context, this may not be hook-notable I believe. The question left unaddressed is five seats out of how many. If it is five seats out of 15, this would seen rather non-notable. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F804:C954:1D4C:5D11 (talk) 03:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • I went back and forth on the wording of the sentence, but with the 200 characters cap it is difficult to get all nuances and factoids included. For me "only five" implies that it is less than proportional, but a rewording could be to replace "five seats" with "8%". --Soman (talk) 10:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    General eligibility:

    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    Image eligibility:

    • Freely licensed: No - The licensing is incorrect, at issue is not the photograph copyright but the poster itself ({{PD-1923}} in the United States, not sure about Poland)—then you can use {{PD-scan}}
    • Used in article: Yes
    • Clear at 100px: No - all you can see is a number 5
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: The article looks mostly fine, but I'm not sure about the hook. Non-proportional electoral systems are typical outside of continental Europe, where proportional representation based systems are more common. First past the post can cause equal amount of distortion. (t · c) buidhe 04:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    But the hook states that the reasons for the disproportionality is the curiae system, which is arguably something different from FPTP dynamics. The curia system would be very weird present-day, to explicitly discriminate in favour of the wealthiest. There are some alternate takes on the on the hook, like ALT1 "... that while 55% of the voters in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) were working class, they only got 10 out of 60 seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?" or ALT2 ... that the curiae-based electoral system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionally favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties? Now ALT2 would require a bit of a rewrite in article and need another image though. --Soman (talk) 19:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Regarding the clarity of image, I selected precisely because it had symbolism that was readable even at 100px. I don't think we'd expect people to read the fine print, but in 100px the number 5 is clearly visible (5 times) and the largest text is readable ('vote for our list'). The designer of the poster wanted that a reader catch the number 5 clearly even from a distance. --Soman (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My point is that many electoral systems intentionally or not result in disproportionate seats for certain parties at the expense of others, thus it cannot really be a surprising fact that this particular electoral system has that result. (t · c) buidhe 19:19, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Again, this is not comparable to the issues from FPTP or STV electoral systems. Here was a case where an electoral system was explicitly designed to give a absolute majority to the wealthiest sections of society, with the explicit and publicly stated goal of ensuring a stable conservative majority. Now at the time the principle 1 citizen 1 vote was not universal by any means, but for present-day readers this is certainly something that would raise eyebrows. --Soman (talk) 21:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I know a bit about how pre-German Revolution electoral systems worked in Germany (and as you've written here, applied to occupied territories), but the average reader doesn't. So I think if you are going to take that angle, it needs to be more clear in the hook. (t · c) buidhe 22:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Soman: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    How about ALT3 - "... that the class-based curiae system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionately favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties?" --Soman (talk) 01:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)?[reply]

    Tempered chocolate

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    Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 11:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Nan Nan Resources

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    • Source: In 2011, the company would change its identity twice. First to International Resources Enterprise Limited in April, and then to Nan Nan Resources Enterprise Limited in October.
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    Created by DarthCloakedGuy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    DarthCloakedGuy (talk) 12:38, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Yumeshima Station

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    ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 03:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • ALT1: ... that Yumeshima Station is scheduled to open in 2025, even though it was first planned to be opened in 2008?

    Just an idea for the nominator (I will not be the reviewer). Bremps... 06:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Teleke Lauti

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    • ... that politician Teleke Lauti unseated a former Prime Minister with a campaign managed by a former Prime Minister?
    • ALT1: ... that politician Teleke Lauti unseated a former Prime Minister, was unseated himself by a future Prime Minister, and later ran again to replace a former Prime Minister? Source: same for 'unseated a former Prime Minister'; lost to Latasi and Kausea Natano (future PM) in 2002 (could add another source verifying Natano as being a future PM if needed); Fenui News for running to replace a former PM (Latasi in 2018)
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edward J. York
    • Comment: Open to other ways of wording. Would like it if it could be featured by the end of the month, prior to the end of the Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest (since I'm competing with the Tuvalu flag).
    Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 246 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    48th Hong Kong International Film Festival

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    Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    References

    1. ^ "國際電影節突取消放映《去年煙花特別多》 陳果感可惜：咩都可以發生" [[Hong Kong] International Film Festival Suddenly Cancels Screening of The Longest Summer — Fruit Chan Expresses Regret: Anything Could Happen.]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 9 March 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024. 原定在第四十八屆香港國際電影節中放映的《去年煙花特別多》日前突然取消，主辦方指「因找不到合適拷貝而未能放映」，改爲放映電影《墮胎師》。該電影由本港獨立電影導演陳果執導，他回覆本報查詢說，對於《去年》未能放映感到可惜，又稱近日才接獲電影節通知指沒有菲林拷貝而取消放映，不清楚是否涉及其他原因。《去年》於1998年上映，與《香港製造》及《細路祥》合稱「九七三部曲」，以香港主權移交及華裔英兵故事作爲背景，電影中亦穿插主權移交及解放軍入城等片段。 [The screening of The Longest Summer, originally scheduled for the 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival, was suddenly canceled. The organizers stated that it could not be shown "due to the inability to locate suitable copies", and the film The Abortionist will be screened instead. Directed by local independent filmmaker Fruit Chan, he responded to [Ming Pao's] inquiry by expressing regret that The Longest Summer could not be screened. He mentioned that he only recently received notification from the festival that there were no film copies available, and he is unsure if there are other reasons involved. The Longest Summer was released in 1998 and is part of the "1997 Trilogy," along with Made in Hong Kong and Little Cheung. It sets against the backdrop of Hong Kong's sovereignty handover and stories of Chinese-ethnic British soldiers. The film also features segments about the handover and the arrival of the People's Liberation Army.]
    2. ^ "「找不到合適拷貝」 國際電影節撤播《去年煙花特別多 》" ["Unable to Find Suitable Copies": International Film Festival Withdraws Screening of The Longest Summer.]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 10 March 2024. Archived from the original on 9 September 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024. 第48屆香港國際電影節本月28日開幕，由獨立電影導演陳果執導的《去年煙花特別多》突然被取消放映，改為放映同由陳果執導的《墮胎師》。主辦方在電影節節目及訂票手冊中稱「因找不到合適拷貝而未能放映」。陳果昨回覆本報稱，對於《去》未能放映感可惜，近日才接獲電影節通知稱沒有菲林拷貝而取消放映，不清楚是否涉其他原因。翻查資料，《去》曾於2017年在香港藝術中心古天樂電影院放映，當年主辦方與今屆電影節主辦方同為香港國際電影節協會（HKIFF）。《去》2021年也曾在兆基創意書院放映室放映，播放的是35mm菲林拷貝。 [The 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival opened on the 28th of this month. The screening of The Longest Summer, directed by independent filmmaker Fruit Chan, was suddenly canceled, and it was replaced with The Abortionist, also directed by Fruit Chan. The organizers stated in the festival program and ticketing booklet that it could not be screened "due to the inability to locate suitable copies". Chan expressed regret over the cancellation of The Longest Summer, stating that he only recently received notification from the festival that there were no film copies available and is unsure if there are other reasons involved. According to records, The Longest Summer was previously screened in 2017 at the Hong Kong Arts Centre's Gigi Leung Cinema, with the same organizers as this year's festival, the Hong Kong International Film Festival Society (HKIFF). The film was also screened in 2021 at Lee Shau Kee School of Creativity, using a 35mm film copy.]
    3. ^ Lo, Zabrina (20 March 2024). "Karena Lam on the lack of gender equality in the local film industry, and her ambassadorships with French May and Hong Kong International Film Festival". Tatler Asia. Archived from the original on March 29, 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024. To say Taiwanese Canadian actress Karena Lam has a packed calendar is an understatement. This year, she replaces Aaron Kwok as the ambassador of the Hong Kong International Film Festival which will take place from March 28 to April 8—becoming the second woman to be offered this position since actress Miriam Yeung in 2011.

    Flag of Falcón state, Monument to the Venezuelan Federation

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    Flag of Falcón state
    Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 398 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 14:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    New York Hall of Science

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    The New York Hall of Science
    5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 673 past nominations.

    Epicgenius (talk) 19:16, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Abraham Hamadeh

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    5x expanded by DukeOfDelTaco (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    DukeOfDelTaco (talk) 05:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Tore Skeie

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    • ... that Tore Skeie's first book, written while he faced severe financial hardship, won him a prize of NOK 100,000?
    Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

    Kimikel (talk) 00:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Spearfishing at the Micronesian Games

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    Sahaib (talk) 18:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Full review needed.--Launchballer 19:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Baguia Fort

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    CMD (talk) 11:26, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Jewish dairy restaurant

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    Andre🚐 09:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Not a full review, but the interesting thing about the article is the fact that Jewish dairy restaurants even exist in the first place, considering kosher laws. I'd suggest proposing hooks that focus specifically on that aspect, as least as possible options for the promoter, as the mere concept of the Jewish dairy restaurant is the elephant in the room here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Could you elaborate what you mean? Dairy restaurants are kosher. That is the entire point of them. The laws say not to mix milk and meat, that's why there isn't any meat at a dairyrestaurant. Andre🚐 12:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As a non-Jew myself, I just thought that the actual concept was interesting by itself. It might not be as obvious to observant Jews of course since they may take it for granted, but especially to people from places where Jews are not very visible it might be unusual. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, yes, I see what you mean. Yeah maybe there could be an ALT1 like:
    A bit long perhaps? Andre🚐 14:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Per WP:DYKTRIM it could be shortened to something like "... that Jewish dairy restaurants specialize in food that accommodate the kosher Jewish dietary rules on milk and meat?" Would that be okay with you? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure sounds good. Andre🚐 00:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I do think the original hook is interesting, I only mentioned the suggestion above so that it could be offered as an option. It's probably best for a reviewer to make the final decision. I've slightly modified the original hook to give Trotsky's full name since not all readers may know who he is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Funnyback

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    1928 Funnyback
    • ... that people referred to the 1928 US$1 silver certificate as a Funnyback (pictured)?
    Moved to mainspace by Bruxton (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 154 past nominations.

    Bruxton (talk) 21:59, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Catharina Weiss

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    Catharina Weiss
    Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 432 past nominations.

    Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:22, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Full review needed. You are welcome to take up the otiosity of that rule at WT:DYK in the interim.--Launchballer 18:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Alison Creagh

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    Alison Creagh
    Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 431 past nominations.

    Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    David de Pomis

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    Andre🚐 01:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Middlesex Regiment alien labour units

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    • Source: Although all eight were described as "Alien" companies, the originals were formed from the sons of foreign nationals, however from 1918 actual foreign nationals were used to form three companies , see eg: "the Director of Labour in France was informed that all Russians and other aliens whom 'it was not desirable to retain with fighting units' were to be sent to the Middlesex Regiment base depot at Etaples. Apart from the Russians, they were to be posted to the Middlesex Infantry Labour Companies ... This enabled three more Middlesex Labour companies to be formed." from: Messenger, Charles (30 April 2015). Call to Arms: The British Army 1914-18. Orion. p. 121. ISBN 978-1-78022-759-7.
    Created by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 875 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 11:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Margaret Reid (politician)

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    Reidgreg (talk) 12:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Actually, looking at the article, I'm surprised the following wasn't proposed:
    ALT1 ... that Margaret Reid is the first woman to serve as President of the Australian Senate? (Source: "Rising Above the Genteel Rumble of the Pink Palace" Canberra Times at ProQuest 1016152950 (via Wikipedia Library) "She made Australian political history on August 20, 1996 when she became the first woman President of the Senate."
    Although a "first" hook (a kind of hook that has been discouraged on DYK as of late), it is one that should be relatively easy to verify/support and thus not as an exceptional of a claim as most other "first" hooks. In addition, it's the highlight of her career, but more importantly, probably more interesting to a broad audience than just merely losing an election then winning/being appointed again later. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:23, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, ALT1 looks good to me; I've added a source already cited in the article at that sentence (in the body). She had some other "firsts" (first and only president representing a territory, first female deputy president, and I thought first female whip though I'm not finding a source on that right now) but only included the major one so as not to emphasize this too much per WP:FIRSTWOMAN. I wouldn't put it in the lead sentence, but it seems fine to me for DYK. If there are objections, though, I don't mind withdrawing the nomination. I also piped women to Women in the Australian Senate if that's alright. – Reidgreg (talk) 13:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    KAUT-TV

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    Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:32, 10 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    It's OK I'm OK

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    NØ 07:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Ernest de Munck

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    AsYouWish13 02:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Shin Iza Gawna

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    Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    agreed! Thanks for new hook but full review needed. Hteiktinhein (talk) 20:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Wait, please... I have an image of the monk's statue, and I’m trying to find it in my iCloud. I will upload it to Wiki Commons soon. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 21:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Charles Biasiny-Rivera

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    Thriley (talk) 20:13, 19 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Cannonball (MILW train)

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    The Cannonball in Milwaukee, 1966
    • ... that Milwaukee, Wisconsin, had a commuter train nicknamed the Cannonball operating between suburban Watertown until 1972?
    • Source: Sanders, Craig (2006). Amtrak in the Heartland. Bloomington, Indiana: Indiana University Press. p. 184. ISBN 978-0-253-34705-3
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    Created by Central Corridor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Central Corridor (talk) 19:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Isaac Vincent

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    • ... that Isaac Vincent, nicknamed Honest Ike, stole over $200,000 from the Alabama treasury?
    Created by Jon698 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 76 past nominations.

    Jon698 (talk) 01:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Danton Barto

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    • ... that despite still being the Memphis Tigers' all-time leading tackler over 30 years after his college career ended, Danton Barto never made it to the NFL?
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    Created by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Benjamin Franklin Shumard

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    Oak species named after Benjamin F. Shumard
    • ... that an assistant to Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard named an oak species in his honor, but then foiled his reinstatement after he was let go by newly-elected Governor Sam Houston?
    • Source: in his honor: Buckley, Samuel Botsford (1860). "Description of Several New Species of Plants". Proc. Acad. Nat. Sci. Philadelphia. 12 (published 1861): 443–445 – via JSTOR.

    got him fired, see page 7, line 4 of this source: Roessler, A. R. "Reply to the charges made by SB Buckley, State Geologist of Texas, in his official report of 1874, against Dr. BF Shumard and AR Roessler." (1875). https://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/bc3d474b-4e53-4980-8240-9b48ba20b33d/content

    see also: p.144 (p2 of pdf): Young, Keith (1994-01-01). "The Shumards in Texas". Earth Sciences History. 13 (2): 143–153.
      • ALT1: ... that Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard had an oak species named in his honor by an assistant in 1860, who then stymied Shumard's reappointment by Texas Governor Sam Houston? Source: same as above, trying different wording
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    ProfGray (talk) 18:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    U Wasawa

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    Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Nobody Knows (Shawn Mendes song)

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    NØ 05:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Virginia Beach Police Department

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    Erin (SSBelfastFanatic) (talk) 16:44, 17 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Promising factoid, but with no provided citation to back it up here. Article was created 15 days ago (on September 3)—a week and change beyond the normal eligibility deadline—but became an AFC graduate on the 13th, so at least we're good here. Said article also has a {{more sources needed section}} banner, which fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE and might as well be addressed ASAP. To the editor now known as @PhoenixCaelestis: As far as your DYK skills are concerned, you're starting to get there, and with two go-rounds in this arena so far, I'll forgive you for that. Wishing you luck next time, and best of editing! --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 12:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    St. Stephen's Episcopal Church (San Luis Obispo, California)

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    St. Stephen's Episcopal Church in San Luis Obispo, California
    • Source: "Phoebe Apperson Hearst died on April 13, 1919.

    She was one of America’s greatest philanthropists, having given away more than $21 million to educa- tional and charitable causes. She was instrumental in the founding of the Parent Teachers Association as a national movement. She also successfully pro- moted kindergartens as an aspect of American edu- cation. She helped many causes on the Central Coast. She gave a pipe organ to her parish when in residence at the Rancho Piedra Blanca: St. Ste- phen's Episcopal Church in San Luis Obispo"

    https://southcountyhistory.org/Newsletters/June2020.pdf (Page 5). An archived 1986 San Luis Obispo Tribune article by Dr. Dan Kreiger
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    Created by Derpytoucan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Derpytoucan (talk) 00:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Elaine DePrince

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    Cielquiparle (talk) 07:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Edmond and Lily Safra Center for Brain Sciences

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    Edmond and Lily Safra Center for Brain Sciences, Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    • Source: Overlaid with gleaming 21st-century filigree, this esthetic delight hints at pattern and order, embedded in randomness. “They are Henry Markram’s neurons – or rather, from his rat brains,” explains Segev, “and we at ELSC had the idea of this neuron trellis wrapping round the building.” https://www.jpost.com/Jerusalem-Report/In-sickness-and-in-health-540756
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    • Comment: I am trying to find a better image to illustrate the neuron screen
    Created by Simxaraba (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Simxaraba (talk) 07:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Talli Osborne

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    Bridget (talk) 22:01, 19 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Nathania Ong

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    Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 171 past nominations.

    KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 13:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    @Narutolovehinata5: that's a reasonable point, though this was what I deemed to be the most interesting "factoid" in the article. And even if it really were the case (that this is "actually not uncommon"), how many times have such hooks appeared on DYK? It sure can't beat the river-related hooks of yesteryear 😆 KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 14:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Marie Marcks

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    Marie Marcks in 2006
    • ... that Marie Marcks (pictured) was called the Grande Dame of political cartoons in Germany?
    Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

    Munfarid1 (talk) 11:08, 17 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    June Franklin

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    • Source: "In recognition of her demonstrated leadership skills, she was elected during the 63rd General Assembly to the position of Assistant Minority Leader of the Democratic House. Franklin is the first African-American to hold such a leadership position in either major political party in Iowa." - Silag, Bill (2001). Outside In: African-American History In Iowa 1838-2000. State Historical Society of Iowa. pp. 349–350. ISBN 0890330131.
    Created by SL93 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 417 past nominations.

    SL93 (talk) 00:29, 17 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Not a huge fan of the hook angle given that being an assistant minority leader doesn't seem as impressive being an actual minority leader. There do seem to be some other possible alternatives in the article so here they are:
    ALT1 ... that Iowa politician June Franklin worked as an insurance agent and a real estate agent prior to entering politics?
    ALT1a ... that Iowa state representative June Franklin worked as an insurance agent and a real estate agent prior to entering politics?
    ALT2 ... that Iowa politician June Franklin wrote to 10 members of the US Congress urging them to declare Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday a federal holiday?
    ALT3 ... that state representative June Franklin addressed the nation from the Iowa State Capitol following the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.?
    Most partial to ALT1/ALT1a myself but I'll leave it to a reviewer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Narutolovehinata5 I agree that those are much better. Thank you. SL93 (talk) 00:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Brussels Party Conference of the Communist Party of Germany

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    • Source: Hans Kluth. Die KPD in der Bundesrepublik: Ihre politische Tätigkeit und Organisation 1945 – 1956. Springer-Verlag, 2013. pp. 12, 15
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 400 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 11:19, 15 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Ready Set Learn!

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    Yet another revamp of yet another long-neglected kidvid article (after last month's stint on The Book of Virtues). And by "long-neglected", there are no kind words for how much this got dragged across the mud over the first 18 years of its existence, suffering the slings and arrows of IPs and vandals with no substantial improvement--or serious research--in sight. To the point where TenPoundHammer (talk · contribs) and Liz (talk · contribs) put the old version out of its misery by May 2022 per WP:NTV. Quoting the former:
    "Tagged for notability since 2013. Program blocks are far less likely to be notable on their own, and I see no reason for this one to be so."
    Not for long, though.
    One night last week, I came across Kenny the Shark's status report at this page on TV Tropes--which had me wondering about a demographically related Discovery property, the one I've nominated right now. Looking up Ready Set Learn! InPrivate, I was astonished there was no article on the block, only to learn it had been deleted some time ago. Plan of action: Search it up at WP:Library ProQuest, invoke WP:THREE at WP:RFUD, and hope for the best. And you can easily guess what happened next till this Monday and beyond--complete with official exclamation mark, and proof of its CableACE win back in 1995. (Rehabbed through the AFC process.)
    Don't know what to say next...other than I may need another cooldown from WP eventually. (Besides, I'm trying to get a long-gestating NaNoWriMo project of mine rejuvenated off-WP today or tomorrow.) Or maybe not, as my AFC queue will quickly prove; I feel like taking a stab at a couple of pre-queue efforts before this week's over. Once again, see you back soon with another kidlit pick.
    Wikitrivia note: Short27265 (talk · contribs) was a single-purpose account from mid-November 2004 with only two edits to their name, both page creations: for Peep and the Big Wide World, and the subject of this DYK pitch (which it aired on).
    5x expanded by Slgrandson (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

    Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 13:06, 18 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Verna Mersereau

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    • ... that American stage actress Verna Mersereau performed her ancient classical dances before the royalty of Calcutta?
    Created by Silver seren (talk) and FloridaArmy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 128 past nominations.

    SilverserenC 01:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    American Writers

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    • Source: Pages 568–569 of this dissertation includes a long quote from Garrison's piece in the Newburyport Herald reacting to American Writers, including: "A word of advice to Mr. Neal before we part. If he venture to place his foot again on our soil, we say — Critic! gardez bien! or you may reap that reward for your vile labors, which you so richly merit."
    Created by Dugan Murphy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

    Dugan Murphy (talk) 01:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Nicky Cooney

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    Created by Paora (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 418 past nominations.

    SL93 (talk) 22:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    School of the Arts, Singapore

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    • Source: "FRENCH luxury label Louis Vuitton (LV) will be partnering the School of the Arts (Sota) to develop a visual arts programme for its students."
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    Created by BenTanXiaoMing (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    BenTanXiaoMing (talk) 06:33, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Law of reentry

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    • Source: "Mr. Irwin Smith [...] has demonstrated conclusively that all the apparent exceptions to the "Law of Reentry" be explained and justified in one way or another. His thesis, which I take to be unexceptionable, provides the clinching proof that Macbeth is not the Third Murderer" — The Third Murderer in Macbeth
    • ALT1: ... that the law of reentry is cited as an explanation for a character's abrupt exit off the stage in Richard II? Source: "Almost the only “rule” in London theater that was still faithfully followed was the one we now call, for convenience, the law of reentry [...]. Thus, in Richard II, John of Gaunt makes an abrupt and awkward departure purely to be able to take part in a vital scene that follows." — Shakespeare: The World as Stage; also discussed in Their Exits and Reentrances, p. 9 and Shakespeare's Hand in "The Second Maiden's Tragedy" p. 5
    • ALT2: ... that because of the law of reentry, characters in Elizabethan theatre could not leave the stage at the end of a scene and immediately reenter in the next? Source: "Finally, a word may be said about Prolss' "Law of Re-entry" as it bears upon the matter of act-intermissions. Briefly the law is this: Characters leaving the stage at the end of a scene to reappear at another locality are, to avoid confusion, not permitted to re-enter immediately" — The "Act Time" in Elizabethan Theatres
    • ALT3: ... that some scholars believe many scenes in English Renaissance plays include "speeches or even scenes otherwise unnecessary" to avoid violating the law of reentry? Source: "Neuendorff considers Prölsz's Law of Re-entry (that no character shall leave the stage and immediately re-enter if the scene is meanwhile supposed to have changed) at some length, and finds it of the greatest influence upon dramatic construction. It accounts for the many scenes beginning or ending with a monologue, and for the insertion of speeches or even scenes otherwise unnecessary." — What We Know of the Elizabethan Stage
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    • Comment: Since this article deals with something governing the way characters exit and enter the stage in English Renaissance plays, I'm not actually sure if any of these run afoul of the "must focus on a real-world fact" thing, so I've provided a lot of hooks.
    5x expanded by TenTonParasol (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 03:17, 18 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Talk Talk (Charli XCX song)

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    Converted from a redirect by Jackedano (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 251 past nominations.

    Launchballer 02:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Karađorđeva šnicla

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    Karađorđeva šnicla with fries, tartar sauce, and a slice of lemon
    Karađorđeva šnicla with fries, tartar sauce, and a slice of lemon
    Improved to Good Article status by Vacant0 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

    Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:31, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    A Boy Is a Gun

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    Converted from a redirect by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

    🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Chauncey Archiquette

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    • Source: Path Lit by Lightning: The Life of Jim Thorpe (Thorpe said "[Archiquette] was my football idol and in our scrub games with the homemade football I always tried to emulate him") / Carlisle Vs. Army ("[Thorpe] was particularly taken with the team's star runner, an Indian boy named Chauncey Archiquette ... One day, Thorpe told himself, I'm going to be as tough as Chauncey ... [Thorpe, after watching practice] raced back and forth over the empty field, zigging here, zagging there, trying to emulate his idol.")
    Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 247 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    I'll probably have to cite WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE here: don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject. And for what it's worth, I made a bit of an informal survey about this on Discord, and the three editors who responded said they didn't know who Thorpe is. Note that my thoughts about the hook are independent of the survey; in fact, I made the survey because I wanted to know if American editors might find the hook interesting and to check my own thoughts. As for the nomination itself, the safest option here is probably to try a completely different angle. While ALT1 is arguably a better option, as you said, it loses some of the punch with the additional context. Thorpe is no Lionel Messi or Michael Jordan to warrant the angle, methinks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm rather stunned at the idea that Thorpe isn't well known enough. I don't really see any other good options with the article as well. Would changing the hook so that it does not mention Thorpe, but still has that aspect, work? – I.e. something like ALT2 ... that the "greatest athlete in the world" was inspired by Chauncey Archiquette? (I'd need to add the quote to the article, but Thorpe has widely been called that.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think that's a better hook, but I'm not sure if it will pass scrutiny. DYK usually wants quotes in quote hooks to be attributed whenever possible, but adding an attribution to the hook would probably weaken the article's punch. It might be a good idea to seek opinions from other editors who are experts on wordsmithing like RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, or Launchballer. In any case, I'd suggest dropping any hook that directly mentions Jim Thorpe per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and either having only ALT2 for consideration for now, or trying a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Ansorge Hotel

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    The Ansorge Hotel in 2007
    The Ansorge Hotel in 2007
    • ... that the Ansorge Hotel's (pictured) pressed tin siding likely saved the hotel from burning in 1911?
    • Source: Kettle River Journal 7/15/1911 "The Ansorge Hotel across the street was badly scorched, but owing to the metal covering was saved."
    The Spokesman-Review 7/14/1911 "The Ansorge Hotel, across the street, was badly scorched, but owing to the metal covering was saved. The heat broke all of the windows and scorched the casings"
      • ALT1: ... that a red light in the corner bay window of the Ansorge Hotel (pictured) told rumrunners of revenue men in town? Source: "Ansorge hotel". Ferry County Historical Society. "When the "revenuers" were staying at the Ansorge the propriators placed a red light in a second floor corner window to notify the bootleggers that barrel retrieval in town was not safe."
      • ALT2: ... that the Ansorge Hotel (pictured) may have hosted Henry Ford on the night of July 31, 1911? Source: Ghost towns of the Pacific Northwest pg65 "The Ansorge claimed Henry Ford as one of its guests in 1917"
        Exploring Washingtons Past pg32 "The Ansorges greatest glory came in 1917 when Henry Ford chekced in while visiting relatives who lived in the area."
        NRHP catalogue page 5 of nomination form "The guest register for july 31, 1917 bears the signature of a "Henry Ford, Detroit Mich." and local residents agree that this was the Ford of the Ford Motor Company"
      • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Randrianasolo's sportive lemur
    5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 359 past nominations.

    Kevmin § 16:07, 19 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Deutscher Kurzwellensender Atlantik

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    • Source: "In March 1943, the Political Warfare Executive at Woburn Abbey began broadcasting from two radio stations, Deutscher Kurzwellensender Atlantik and Soldatenseder Calais. These purported to be authentic German transmitters, but in fact had been developed to undermine German morale, and in particular to target U-boat crews ... The objective was to subvert the discipline of enemy submariners by providing continuous first-class music, news, and feature programs every night between 1830 and 0800. Interspersed with German dance bands and singers recorded in the United States, Atlantik spread rumors, issued depressing news bulletins, and generally sought to destroy the seamen's faith in their leadership by contradicting what they had heard from Germany on official channels." from: West, Nigel (2010). Historical Dictionary of Naval Intelligence. Rowman & Littlefield. pp. 90–91. ISBN 978-0-8108-6760-4.
    Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 880 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 13:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Gitmo playlist

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    5x expanded by Based5290 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Based5290 :3 (talk) 04:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Battle of Kembogo

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    • ... that rebel fighters pursued their fleeing enemies during the Battle of Kembogo because they wanted new boots?
    • Source: Kainerugaba, Muhoozi (2010). Battles of the Ugandan Resistance: A Tradition of Maneuver. Kampala: Fountain Publishers, p. 133, quote: "'Our men were all intent on physically laying hands on the enemy' continued Kavuma. Somebody had put out the word that Special Brigade had recently been supplied with new boots; it became the personal mission of every soldier in Mobile Brigade to get a pair".
    Created by Applodion (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 65 past nominations.

    Applodion (talk) 18:34, 22 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Samuel Conrad Schwach

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    Created by Sebbog13 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Sebbog13 (talk) 21:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Growing Form

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    Growing Form
    Growing Form
    • ... that sculptor Moelwyn Merchant described his 1982 piece Growing Form (pictured) as resembling "a tulip bud with the front leaf pulled out"?
    Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 881 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 13:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Khun Tan (mystic)

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    Created by Hteiktinhein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Hteiktinhein (talk) 06:34, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    ALT1-a: ... that, in hopes of gaining good luck, six girls from the Alantaya area were married to Khun Tan, a layman who claimed to be the future Buddha?

    ALT1-b: ... that Khun Tan, a young guy, is worshipped as a bodhisattva in the Alantaya religious area?

    ALT1-c: ... that girls in the Alantaya religious area believe that marrying the layman Khun Tan would bring blessings? Hteiktinhein (talk) 18:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Genocide in the Hebrew Bible

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    Created by Buidhe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 252 past nominations.

    (t · c) buidhe 05:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Bini (group)

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    Bini at Billboard Korea's Billboard K Power 100 event
    Bini at Billboard Korea's Billboard K Power 100 event
    • ... that the Filipino girl group Bini surpassed Taylor Swift after two years as the most-streamed artist on Spotify Philippines?
    • Source: Inquirer.net "American singer-songwriter Taylor Swift has had the Philippines enthralled for two full years, almost three, with the Grammy-award-winning artist staying at the No. 1 spot on Spotify's Daily Top Artists Philippines Chart. On June 16, a P-pop girl group came from behind and snatched the throne from her."
    5x expanded by Royiswariii (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Royiswariii (talk) 06:50, 22 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • that the Filipino girl group Bini dethroned Taylor Swift after two years as the most-streamed artist on Spotify Philippines?
      I'm not familiar with the DYK nomination process, but a suggestion and comment, wouldn't it be better to replace "dethroned" with "surpassed" for a more neutral tone? AstrooKai (Talk • Contributions) 07:36, September 22, 2024‎ (UTC)

    Hixtape: Vol. 3: Difftape

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    Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

    Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:35, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    The True Record

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    The True Record, Issue 3
    The True Record, Issue 3
    • ALT1: ... that the ideas of aesthetic education conveyed by the The True Record (pictured) may have informed the May Fourth Movement? Source: Pan Yaochang (潘耀昌) Xu Li (徐立) (2011). "上海早期都市文艺先锋 ———《真相画报》" [Shanghai's Early Urban Art Pioneer - "The True Record"] (PDF). Journal of Shanghai University (in Chinese): 131–140. (Quote: 画报所设想的通过探索都市新美术，倡导中西融合以提升中华民族文化内涵的举措，从某种角度而言，为五四运动时期倡导“美育”思想做了铺垫。The pictorial's idea of ​​exploring new urban art and advocating the integration of Chinese and Western cultures to enhance the cultural connotation of the Chinese nation, in a sense, paved the way for the advocacy of "aesthetic education" during the May Fourth Movement.)
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Punam Krishan
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 681 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:30, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Jeya Wilson

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    • Comment: DrThneed wrote the bio but she's a tad busy, hence she's asked me whether I would like to see this through the DYK process. I'm only too happy to oblige as Jeya Wilson is such a fascinating person. If you have time, I suggest you watch her opening speech at the Oxford Union debate, which is linked from the source above. And if you want to be in for a treat, wach David Lange's speech (second-to-last speaker) – an absolute stunner of a performance. Almost every New Zealander knows one of the lines that he delivered in that speech.
    Moved to mainspace by Schwede66 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 162 past nominations.

    Schwede66 09:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Francis W. Kelly

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    Francis Kelly
    Moved to mainspace by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 05:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Musa Bility

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    RoundSquare (talk) 01:55, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Barquq Castle

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    Barquq Castle
    • ... that the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret of Barquq Castle in the Gaza Strip were still standing until 2024?
    • Source: Abu Khalaf 1983, p. 182: "Nowadays the Khan is almost demolished, but the front part, which consists of the fac;ade including the gateway and the Mosque with its minaret still stands."
    Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 79 past nominations.

    Onceinawhile (talk) 00:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Thanks for letting me know. I have done the QPQ now. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Granville Colliery

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    Swadlincote ski slope
    • ... that part of the site of Granville Colliery in Derbyshire, England, is now used as a dry ski slope (pictured)?
    Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 882 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 19:50, 22 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Lac qui Parle County seat controversy

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    Moved to mainspace by Cedar Tree (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Cedar Tree 19:48, 22 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Have I Got News for You (American game show)

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    5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 252 past nominations.

    Launchballer 14:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: No - ?
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Hi Launchballer, many thanks for expanding this great article. Are you OK to share credit with User:Gr8gibsoni, given that their original creation is within the 7 days so also qualifies? On the hook, I am fine with either of the top two hooks. On the first, the Guardian source seems to have been written before the show aired – are you sure they formally decided to dispense with rotating presenters? And on the second, I couldn’t see the 20 years mentioned in the Guardian article, and I don’t have access to the Telegraph article – would it be possible to bring a quote? Onceinawhile (talk) 06:01, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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    Special occasion holding area

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    See also: WP:SOHA

    The holding area is near the top of the Approved page. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.

    Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section above, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
    Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: Hold criteria; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: Six week limit.
    April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
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